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kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:30 AM
looks like I forgot to post on here too, lol. This is about a year old now. I really should take some new pics, but I just have no time lately. Anyhow, here's the copy and paste from 3reef.....



So my wife finally gave me the green light to upgrade. I currently have a 29G biocube that's been very good to me for nearly 2 years now. It's been very stable (knock on wood), and I am super happy with it. My fish are growing like on roids, and are starting to bump into eachother. First a few pics of my current tank.

General tank shot. In the front you can see my convict blenny. This guy was purchased about 6 months ago, measuring about 2". In that short time, he's grown to about 6"+. Crazy. And I know, I shouldn't have a tang, but my mom really wanted it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1951.jpg

Another tank shot. See the purple xenia? It started out as a 1" tall single piece. This stuff is like a weed once it takes off.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1952.jpg

My true percula clowns with their RBTA. All very happy together. The RBTA is VERY small right now. When the MH light is on, it towers over my big leather. The clowns lay eggs on a regular basis.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1958.jpg

My green goby wanted to say hi. He's the first fish I ever purchased, so he's been with me since day 1.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1960.jpg

This is my finger leather. It started out as a little frag from my buddy's tank, and has really taken off.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1964.jpg

And finally, my yellow tang and spotted dwarf puffer. The puffer has thankfully stayed away from my corals (knock on wood again) and is good with the other fish, except he likes to go after the convict blenny now and then.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1959.jpg

Now the new tank. Here's the stand for it. I went with just a standard tube stand, and I will be doing a custom wood skin around it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1944.jpg

I don't like how low these stands are, so I made a riser stand out of some bosch extrusion. Also with feet which will really help in leveling the tank. Brings it up to a nice eye level.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1945.jpg

This will be the sump. It's a 29G tall tank. This will hold the skimmer and return pump, along with the heater, and carbon filtration. Still working on the sump design.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1946.jpg

This is the 5.5G tank that will be the refugium. I will be drilling 2 holes in the side of it, and it will sit just above the sump tank, spilling into the return section.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1947.jpg

Here's my skimmer. It's the coralife 220G model. This thing is a monster, lol. Rated for 220, I think it should work ok for the 65.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1948.jpg

And last but not least, the display tank. It's a 65G tall (36x18x24) with a corner overflow, and black silicone. I had the blue background applied to it at big als. Very nice tank. For those interested, it's a Perfecto.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1950.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1949.jpg

That's all I have for now. This will likely be about a month long build up as time is limited, so I fit it in as I can. I am picking up a shipment from the US next week which will include lighting, so I will post more about that when it all comes home.

Comments (positive and negative) are welcome, as they will help me with setting it all up properly.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:30 AM
here are a couple better shots of the RBTA.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1966.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1967.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1969.jpg

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:31 AM
Got some more updates.....

Got the lights in, go to the link below to see the review..
http://www.3reef.com/forums/reef-lighting/fishneedit-com-lights-quick-review-76872.html#post747618

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/T5modules.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/mhmodules1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2392.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/MHmodules2.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/T5output.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/lightassembly.jpg

Here's my 5.5gal refugium tank after drilling it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1973.jpg

Same tank getting ready for vinegar and steam cleaning.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/PICT1970.jpg

29gal sump tank undergoing water test after being vinegar and steam cleaned.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2441.jpg

My living room is the storage room now for all the parts. LOL. Wife is not too happy, but ya. Still waiting for another plumbing order and I can put it all together.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2445.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2446.jpg

A few display tank shots. This is not cleaned yet, so please ignore the big streaks on the glass.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/displaytank.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2447.jpg

This shows where the fuge will sit, and spill down into the sump.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2448.jpg

And finally, I've started harvesting my purple xenia. Will be selling it to LFS for store credit that I can use on the new tank. I know, my sand is nasty, it's getting a good cleaning today.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2443.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2442.jpg

That's all for now. In the next week I hope to start assembly.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:32 AM
While waiting for my glass to be cut, I started working on the electrical panel. The board will sit in the frame of the stand, and will have a separate side door to access it.

Starting installation. The single box on the right will be the main kill switch. This will kill all power going to everything. The 2 double boxes will have 2 switches each. Main Pump, Protein Skimmer, Powerheads, Heater. As you can see in the last pic, the wiring goes through the board, where I will have GFI's for each of the items. All the remaining space will be eaten up by lighing control, ballasts, and power supply to run my moon lights and cooling fans.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2452.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2453.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2454.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2455.jpg

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:33 AM
Finally making some more progress.....

Here's the electrical panel nearly complete. On the first shot, I still have to add my coralife power center that's in use on my BC29, and the 12vdc power supply for the cooling fans and moon lights. The other 2 timers you see are going to be for the MH lights. I didn't use the ones on the power center because I want to control them separately. I will turn on the left MH, then both, then only the right, and then both off. Kinda trying to do a sunrise/sunset type of deal. On the second pic, I have to add the ballasts for the lighting, and the control box for my moon lights and cooling fans.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2469.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2470.jpg

Then I got to my drain and return plumbing that's in the display tank. Glued it all together. The PVC primer is some nasty stuff to work with. Very runny and stains like no tomorrow. Here are some shots of the plumbing.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2465.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2467.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2468.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2471.jpg

And finally, I started working on the sump. Glass took longer to cut than I was expecting. Anyhow, first pic shows assembly of the first chambers, second and third shows the first chambers in the sump, and the last pic shows the last of 3 baffles going in.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2463.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2473.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2474.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2464.jpg

That's it for now. I should have quite a bit more done by this weekend.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:33 AM
More progress.

The biocube has now been moved out a few feet from the wall, and the 65G is in it's final resting place. I've nearly finished all the plumbing, just waiting for it to cure now. I got the sand and rock from a local supplier of marcorocks.com. The sand is SUPER fine. Took a few good rinses to get it nice and clear. The rock (dry rock) is some of the most beautiful rock I've seen. I was able to pick and choose which rocks I wanted. I grabbed about 75lbs. The sump is also all complete.

Now some pics.....

Sump with the skimmer in place.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2477.jpg

Here you can see the riser I made for the skimmer and the pump support platform. Basically glass panes on acrylic supports.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2478.jpg

Pics of the rock. The pictures don't really show the beauty of it. Once I rinse it and get it wet, the pics will look better.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2479.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2480.jpg

This is a snug fit in the frame. It's to prevent spills out of the sump. It can also hold a bit of water if the sump overflows for any reason.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2481.jpg

Tank in it's final resting place. You can see the biocube in the middle of the kitchen now. lol. Gonna be there til I'm ready to do the transfer.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2482.jpg

Shot of the sump and refugium under the tank.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2483.jpg

Pic of the tank.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2484.jpg

I lined the bottom with eggcrate. I don't want the rock sitting on bare glass.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2496.jpg

I've also put all my sand in after rinsing it for several hours. It was too late so no pics. Will take some with sand and post them sometime tomorrow.

If all goes well, I will have water in it this coming weekend.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:34 AM
here's a pic of the tank with sand in it

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2499.jpg

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:35 AM
Made some good progress, and also took a step back. I totally goofed on the return plumbing. I put my check valve right on top of my return pump, but I have tees above it. So if I don't break siphon up top in a power outage, the water will still flow back through the tee. So that needs some reworking to put the check valve right under the bulkhead.

Anyhoo, here are the progress pics....

Here is the ghetto canopy I made to hold the lights for the time being. I will be getting a custom one made, but not right away. This will do for now. The black box up top just brings all the fan/LED wires together.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2530.jpg

The MH module of the fishneedit lights gets pretty warm, and people have reported the plastic warping on the sides. So I cut the grills, and mounted some fans that will blow air across the bulbs
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2502.jpg

Here's what it looks like
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2531.jpg

A few angles and top down shots of the aquascape. I used epoxy in key places to tie the rock together after my wife and I were happy with the results. We have a wall going up the overflow wil A LOT of little caves. Plus an island that has caves coming in/out from every side, and 2 little rock islands.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2510.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2511.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2508.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2512.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2513.jpg

Filling RO water and checking for leaks as I go.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2518.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2523.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2526.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2532.jpg

Some pics with the lights on. My wife's camera is terrible, so you can't really see the light output all that well. Let me tell you, these things are BRIGHT!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2535.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2538.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2539.jpg

And finally finished all the electrical and cleaned it up. The 24vdc power supply stays on all the time, and runs the MH cooling fans and night LED's. One supply for both. I have 2 120v relays run by the timer that select when to fire the LED's and fans.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2542.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2543.jpg

And finally, the T5 ballasts. Didn't want to extend the wiring, so just made a mount for them.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2544.jpg

Plumbing should be done by end of this weekend. Hopefully she'll be up and doing a test run by Wednesday. I was also fortunate enough to score 2 controllable koralia 3's with the wavemaker 2 for $210 shipped, so that's what I'll be using for powerheads.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:36 AM
Here are some long overdue updates....

Here's the sump. I have a lexan cover over the right side to stop bubbles from splasing salt all over the place.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0039.jpg

Another shot. Yes the water is over the max, it's feeding time so the return pump is off. You can also see my refugium.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0040.jpg

Skimmer working like a champ. It's the 220 model coralife.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0041.jpg

Here's the frag rack I made. The tunze cleaner magnet was WAYYYY too strong, so I epoxied some eggcrate to it, and I have a nice frag rack. With the strong magnet I can really load this up.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2557.jpg

Scored a used wavemaker 2.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF2560.jpg

Mounted under the tank on a custom extrusion shelf.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0576.jpg

Bought a few nice coral pieces. They are in the 29G tank for the time being. The first has beautiful purple tips. The second one is more red than the pic shows. Also got an aussi hammer coral, but no pic.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0032.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0033.jpg

This is the smaller island on the right side. Made from marco rocks. The brain coral is not doing too well.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0484.jpg

This is the wall on the left, going up the overflow. Also marco rocks.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0502.jpg

Bridge piece from my 29G tank.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0505.jpg

Shot from the left side.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0574.jpg

From the right side.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0588.jpg

Marco rocks are starting to show nice coraline growth after about 2 months.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0540.jpg

Full tank shot.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0465.jpg

And finally my clowns still in the 29G along with they anemone. The are the last ones left to go in the big tank.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0217.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0353.jpg

That's all for now.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 03:38 AM
So that's all I have from other forums. I'll update soon. On another note, the monti pictured above (and below) has more than tripled in size within 1 year. Incredible growth. I broke a few pieces during the move to the big tank, glued em on frag plugs, and they took off like crazy. Sold them to big als for store credit.

Here's the original size again.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/DSCF0033.jpg

Cliff
11-20-2010, 01:52 PM
Nice looking tank

DCDN
11-20-2010, 02:49 PM
Looks great, love all the pics

lastlight
11-20-2010, 02:49 PM
Livestock pics are not working but I think it's interesting what you did with that Bosch stuff. Is that cantilevered tank really sturdy that sorta freaks me out!

What's with that box of relays? Did you make that enclosure too or is that some sort of pre made device?

Lookings forward to the newest pics maybe your bandwidth was exceeded.

kookie_guy
11-20-2010, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the kind words.

The pics seem to be working for me, not sure what's going on. The bosch extrusion is working out great. The leveling feet gave me adjustment to make the tank level. The small fuge tank is super sturdy. It's attached with bosch gussets. It's not going anywhere, lol. I built that box of relays so that I could use one 24vdc power supply to run my moon lights and cooling fans. Basically, used my timer bar to fire one set of AC relays for moon lights, and the other set for the cooling fans when my MH lights come on. After about a month, the relay contacts welded from the on/off switching. I've since removed that box, and just added a second 24vdc power supply. Now I just use the timer to supply each 24vdc power supply when I want it on.

kookie_guy
12-02-2010, 01:31 AM
Finally some LOOOOOONG overdue updates..... Don't have pics of ALL the corals and fish, but you get the idea.



Pic of my monti with actinics. I know, I'm not a professional photographer, lol.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4376.jpg



The circled red is what the monti started as about 1 year ago. Crazy how fast it's grown, and it's been fragged already too.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4539.jpg



Some shots of my 2 frogspawns.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4480.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4424.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4439.jpg



My torch.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4477.jpg



Coraline growth on the dry rock from marco rocks

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4459.jpg



This started as a 4 head frag. Now it's so crowded there's no room. lol. There's at least 20 heads on there now. Tang posed with it for pic.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4462.jpg



Finger leather. Started out as just 1 of those fingers, lol, now it's a monster.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4441.jpg



My true percs with their RBTA.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4435.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4455.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4498.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4510.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4520.jpg



Flame hawk fish.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4466.jpg



My watchman goby. This guy has been with me since day 1.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4597.jpg



LOL! You know it's dinner time when....

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4602.jpg



And finally, a couple FTS.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4487.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/kookie_guy/65G%20upgrade/Dec%201%202010/IMG_4490.jpg



That's it that's all folks.

Tetrarch
01-24-2011, 04:44 AM
Looks good, I usually don't like tall tanks but you seem to have used it to your advantage. Nice work.

Delphinus
01-24-2011, 06:19 AM
Not sure how I missed this thread before today's bump but man I gotta say I really like what you've done with the stand with the risers, the drip tray and some seriously tidy electrical panels there. Nice!

Where can you get these Bosch extrusion parts?

kookie_guy
01-24-2011, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the kind words. I got the bosch extrusion from work. We go through a lot of it so there's always some laying around. If you go on the bosch website you can find local dealers.

fishytime
01-24-2011, 11:46 PM
diggin the scape!......with um one possible exception....I would consider moving the monti cap down some in the tank......once that thing starts really plating out its gonna shade everything underneath it:wink:....very good clownfish/nem pics!:biggrin:

kookie_guy
01-25-2011, 01:22 AM
diggin the scape!......with um one possible exception....I would consider moving the monti cap down some in the tank......once that thing starts really plating out its gonna shade everything underneath it:wink:....very good clownfish/nem pics!:biggrin:

hehe, way ahead of ya. As it gets out of control, I harvest, farm, and sell to local big als for credit.