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phyto4life
10-31-2010, 12:26 AM
Post all info and pics of your grafted paly's/zoa's here please

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture297.jpg

It is the nuclear green and purple death palythoa that I grafted together using a razor blade and allowing them to join together naturally creating a grafted paly like the precedure in which they use with some plants/roots etc I think.

Myka
10-31-2010, 12:57 AM
Nice!

reefwars
10-31-2010, 12:59 AM
i commented last time i saw this but i think its sweet im going to try it one of these days soon, so you just get a couple of polyps of each to heal closely together then slice horizontal and vertically and allow them to grow into each other??? very interesting and great picture:)

turkleton
10-31-2010, 01:23 AM
Congratulations your the Dr. Frankenstein of the zoanthid/palythoa community!

marcingo
10-31-2010, 03:08 AM
Have you had success with this in the long term? I saw this and was immediately interested since I would like to do the same. However when I googled it I read an article by Eric Borneman and it basically said the three ways of fusing corals. One being fusing two completely different corals together (which immediately did not work for most corals resulting in rejection. Basically the corals started attacking each other). The other ways were grafting two corals together of of different genetic makeups (or somethign like that) Basically like two different zoas which you did. Here they found the corals did come together but did not last for very long and in the end rejected each other. According to the article the only way that worked was putting two corals together from the same colony (like two branches of the same acro). In this case they found it fused very quickly and lasted.

Anyway has it ever worked long term?

phyto4life
11-02-2010, 12:33 AM
Started a new post because I was grafting as opposed to hybridizing.



So far it's been around 2 motnhs and the grafted nuclear death is still looking the same way.

While the 2 babies have a slightly smaller % of the 50%/50% color

I'm looking forward to there offspring. and there out come in order to see if they end up going back to normal.


Just attempted to graft these zoas:

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture302.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture303.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture304.jpg

I used a different grafting precedure on the zoas. If they don't turn out I'll go back to the original grafting way, which is letting them grow into each other and slicing them into each other.

phyto4life
11-08-2010, 01:32 PM
here is my 1 blue and 1 orange zoa graft in which the sliced off orange zoa head is placed on top of and on the side of the blue zoa that had it's side sliced off

then I applied crazy glue gel on the orange zoa head in order to keep him in place as he grafts into the blue zoa

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture313.jpg

so far it's a 70% success because they are melting into each other

tomorrow I will slice them where the soft grafted tissue is melting into each other so that they graft even more.


here's an update on the nuclear death paly's 2 offspring with a 3rd too young to know what color/pattern she took on.

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture307.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture311.jpg

one is like a purple/green die dye shirt while the other is green with 2 piece pizza slice of purple

sorry for the pics it's my old old camera I'm still learning how to use manual focus with my canon rebel.

phyto4life
12-03-2010, 02:04 AM
here is the offspring from the 50/50 nuclear green/purple death isolated single polyp frag

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture330.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/ZOOS%20AND%20PALYS/Picture332.jpg

The razor in which I used to graft the paly's:

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/Picture343.jpg

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/clintos08/Picture342.jpg

any coral propagator's that want to attempt this.

should look at my first pic in the thread it kind of look's ugly but the thing that is great about this is that every attempted graft is different and once you get that right graft that you like you can honestly call it a real L.E created only by you something that may be laying in the ocean with million's of others for all that anyone knows just not yet discovered.

or the 2 in which you chose to graft might of never crossed path's in nature because they were harvested from 1000's of K's away from one another

with that purposely made L.E you can take your razor and slice it in half carefully to make 2 and so on

so in theory you can fill a plug with that exact morph through slicing in half which later on once sold will give off alternating morph's

with splitting single paly's you just need to slice in half cleanly scoring a few times in the same spot then you let heal and if it doesn't split try again in 2-5 day's and it will eventually split with in 2-3 try's.