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[imcosmokramer]

over 25,000,000 a year, that's crazy...

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[gobytron]

almost as disgusting as the cove.

[rayjay]

Well depending on who is doing the reporting, that is a low number compared to many estimates of the harvesting.
Thank God for the true captive bred ones coming into the Canadian hobby now from Aquamarines International, Seahorse Sanctuary, and Seahorse Corral.

[Ron99]

Uggghh. Don't get me started on traditional chinese medicine. Seahorses, snakes, bear gall bladders. And shark fin soup. Some things about the chinese culture really make me angry. Mind you, we have our own stupid beliefs in western culture too. For Pete's sake people it's the 21st century. Time to move on...

[Zoaelite]

Uggghh. Don't get me started on traditional chinese medicine. Seahorses, snakes, bear gall bladders. And shark fin soup. Some things about the chinese culture really make me angry. Mind you, we have our own stupid beliefs in western culture too. For Pete's sake people it's the 21st century. Time to move on...

Seeing the term "Shark Fin Soup" just put's me in a bad mood, indiscriminately violently killing animals and leaving them to die slow painful deaths for a tasteless piece of cartilage is repulsive to say the least. Capitalism is a disease on this planet and we all seem to take far to much pleasure in it :neutral:.

[kien]

Capitalism is a disease on this planet and we all seem to take far to much pleasure in it :neutral:.

Does that mean I'm getting my zoa frags for free?!?! :biggrin:

That is a very sad sight to see so many dead sea horses :sad:

[gobytron]

Well depending on who is doing the reporting, that is a low number compared to many estimates of the harvesting.
Thank God for the true captive bred ones coming into the Canadian hobby now from Aquamarines International, Seahorse Sanctuary, and Seahorse Corral.

um, I don't think that you will see the number of seahorses harvested for CTM drop based on them being aquacultured for hobbyists...

And capitalism aint so bad.

Its capitalists that kill us.

[rayjay]

Seahorses are being aquacultured mostly for the medicine/curio trade where all the money is.
Some get siphoned off for the hobby.
Problem is that these companies don't worry about proper filtration units to treat ocean water before pumping it into the seahorse systems, and so most of these seahorses, normally referred to as tank raised or net pen raised, have all the same pathogens that wild caught have.
A true captive bred, will have been bred for the hobby only, and will be bred and raised in either manufactured salt water like I.O., or ocean water that is properly filtered and treated.
The 3 places I listed in my last post are the only ones that provide true captive bred seahorses to Canada at the moment to the best of my knowledge. All the rest are tank raised, net pen raised, or wild caught.

[Milad]

that video just made me want a seashorse!! are they reefsafe?

[gobytron]

that video just made me want a seashorse!! are they reefsafe?

They are reef safe.
But reefs generally aren't seahorse safe.

[rayjay]

Seahorses are best kept in species only tanks. It can be done but it's mostly the luck of the draw when it succeeds long term.
Seahorses are extremely prone to bacterial infections leading to death.
You increase your odds of success tremendously by keeping them in a cooler environment, 68° to 74°F because the bad bacteria doesn't thrive as well as it does in the warmer temps.
You can't have any stinging corals and clams sometimes have been known to close up on a tail causing damage allowing bacterial infestations. Sometimes corals are damaged as seahorses continually hitch to the same spot on the same coral.
Most fish are not compatible with seahorses, and, the more species in the tank be it seahorses from other breeding sources, or fish from other sources, you increase the odds of the seahorses succumbing to pathogens that they haven't become accustomed to as they grow up.
If you read the "my thoughts" link in my signature, there are links at the bottom of the page to give you the basics you need to know to get started in seahorse keeping.

[Madreefer]

that video just made me want a seashorse!! are they reefsafe?

I've had seahorses for a couple over a year now and one at the moment that i'm trying to get rid of. I put the male down due to a problem with it constantly filling his pouch full of air that lasted over a month and he was unable to swim. They are really a cool looking animal and are not often seen in peoples tanks, yes I had a tank just for them and not in my main tank. In my experiences with them they are high maintenance and if one is a tank watcher they are kind of boring as they are pretty much a species dedicated tank. So people please do alot of research before getting in to them. There is alot to learn. I know I will never attempt to keep them again. Just too time consuming for my lifestyle and it's not fair to the animal just 'cause I wanted the challenge. That video is sad and disgusting and wish that people would find other means to get horny such as viagra.