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The Grizz
03-31-2010, 10:08 PM
I bought this pump from a fellow CanReefer and the impeller is seized in. Does anyone have a sure fire way to get it un-seized. It is going to be my closed loop pump for the 165. Thought is was a good deal until today when I went to pull out impeller to clean it.
Delphinus
03-31-2010, 10:21 PM
Vegetable oil maybe, and vice grips.

I pretty much have to use needlenose pliers anytime anyhow I want one of those big magnet impellers out, it's not that it's seized up but just that the magnetic forces make it just that much awkward to try to pull them out with just fingers on the impeller blades..
The Grizz
03-31-2010, 10:44 PM
Well I got it out & as I suspected I got ripped off on this pump for $120 and I am not happy to say the least.

This is what I found, the protective cover was split. There was rust under it and had separated it from the magnet and the bottom of the shaft was broken.
The magnet also is cracked in the same spot as the cover.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/100_3193.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/100_3194.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx291/GRIZZtheWELDER/100_3195.jpg
andestang
03-31-2010, 10:46 PM
Had to soak mine in pure vinager. Got the impeller out, but the ceramic shaft stayed seized in the magnet and had to buy a new impeller.
The Grizz
03-31-2010, 10:48 PM
Had to soak mine in pure vinager. Got the impeller out, but the ceramic shaft stayed seized in the magnet and had to buy a new impeller.

Where do you get the new impeller? Was it for a MAG 36?
andestang
03-31-2010, 10:49 PM
oops a little slow :) If the pump housing itself is not cracked you should be able to just buy a new impeller. Kit comes with magnet, shaft & wheel.
The Grizz
03-31-2010, 10:51 PM
oops a little slow :) If the pump housing itself is not cracked you should be able to just buy a new impeller. Kit comes with magnet, shaft & wheel.

Did you get in Calgary or did you have to order it?
andestang
03-31-2010, 10:51 PM
My god slow again :rolleyes: - I got it from Golds I think around $ 25
The Grizz
03-31-2010, 10:53 PM
cool thanks I will call them tomorrow and see if they have one.
Delphinus
03-31-2010, 11:30 PM
Wowza!!

Well, a little late in coming back to this conversation but as stated at least you can get replacement impellers for Mag drives. Might be tricky finding someone stocking a Mag36 impeller but they should at least be able to get one for you. Good luck!
The Grizz
04-01-2010, 02:02 AM
Any vendor's who catch this thread, I am looking for a new impeller for a MAG 36 A pump.
muck
04-01-2010, 02:07 AM
Mag36 = loud
The Grizz
04-01-2010, 02:12 AM
Mag36 = loud

Would not know paid $120 for a pump that DOES NOT WORK!!:mmph:
Skimmerking
04-01-2010, 02:16 AM
wow that sucks i hope the person who sold you the pump is going to may be buy the impeller for ya . PM i know where to get one GRIzz a mag 36 isnt going to be cheap i have one here
The Grizz
04-01-2010, 02:19 AM
wow that sucks i hope the person who sold you the pump is going to may be buy the impeller for ya . PM i know where to get one GRIzz

I wish but I cant even remember who the dude was other then the fact he lives in Fort Mac.
xtreme
04-01-2010, 02:27 AM
Hopefully they aren't to tough to find. I think the Mag 36 and 50 have been discontinued and I'm not sure who would have them in Canada. I did find one on this site in the US.

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=5198&rel=1
lockrookie
04-01-2010, 03:02 AM
whew..... for a second i thought it was the one i sent you but it was used for a total of 24 hours. did you hook it up yet? to your hex tank
The Grizz
04-01-2010, 03:11 AM
whew..... for a second i thought it was the one i sent you but it was used for a total of 24 hours. did you hook it up yet? to your hex tank

Yep works great, wish the MAG 36 worked this good.
lockrookie
04-01-2010, 03:40 AM
how is it siezed is it a rust issue? i may have an idea you can try but you would have to clean the snott out of it after you try it... i use it on car locks that are siezed i set it in and over night it is free and clear. but i would clean it for awhile before use for the tank. its just a thought

http://www.nucalgon.com/products/coil_cleaners_foambrite.htm

i got it from a airconditioing guy.. again i could be on crack
Skimmerking
04-01-2010, 04:00 AM
you cant fix that impeller it works on magnetic current the only thing that is going to do is delete out a tank.
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 02:15 AM
Well I have done a lot of searching so far but have not found an impeller to order as of yet at a decent price.

Not to mention the person that sold me a broken pump for $120 has not come forward at all. I know I will NEVER EVER buy a mechanical part sight unseen. Can be trusting anymore.
Madreefer
04-02-2010, 03:24 AM
Well I have done a lot of searching so far but have not found an impeller to order as of yet at a decent price.

Not to mention the person that sold me a broken pump for $120 has not come forward at all. I know I will NEVER EVER buy a mechanical part sight unseen. Can be trusting anymore.

I feel for you. I bought an r/o unit over the phone from a store that I dealt with alot. The dude sent me a peice of crap that was apparentely was not even supposed to be sold to the public. So NO WARRANTY. Had a problem with it from day one as well. Same guy sold a buddy of mine a chiller and still owes him peices for it. So this is what the world is coming to. Can't trust anybody. I've even been nice and not mentioned who he is. Sorry Grizz not trying to hijack.
Coleus
04-02-2010, 05:30 AM
Well I have done a lot of searching so far but have not found an impeller to order as of yet at a decent price.

Not to mention the person that sold me a broken pump for $120 has not come forward at all. I know I will NEVER EVER buy a mechanical part sight unseen. Can be trusting anymore.

Greg, I really feel for you my friend. I was in the similar boat when i got my cube tank and I would NEVER EVER buy anything unseen and not tested without really knowing that person.

Anyway, you should call Big Al and Gold to check if they have the part.
Coleus
04-02-2010, 05:33 AM
just google on the the impeller. It costs around $40 USD, that stinks
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 05:39 AM
Greg, I really feel for you my friend. I was in the similar boat when i got my cube tank and I would NEVER EVER buy anything unseen and not tested without really knowing that person.

Anyway, you should call Big Al and Gold to check if they have the part.

just google on the the impeller. It costs around $40 USD, that stinks

I try to call Golds from the # on the 411.ca but all I got was a fax machine, do you have there # by chance.

The cheapest I have found online is $75 USD but have only found 1 place that will ship here.
Coleus
04-02-2010, 05:40 AM
4710J 17 Avenue Southeast
Calgary, AB T2A 0V1
(403) 273-5567
Coleus
04-02-2010, 05:42 AM
Greg, this one ship to Canada and it is 49 USD http://www.petsolutions.com/MAG-57-GASKET+I25012575.aspx
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 05:43 AM
Greg, this one ship to Canada and it is 49 USD http://www.petsolutions.com/MAG-57-GASKET+I25012575.aspx

Called them today and with shipping it come's to almost $80 :sad:
Raven34
04-02-2010, 07:44 AM
You might just want to cut that pump out. That mag will be so loud that you wont be able to think. I tried a mag 24 as a return and my wife almost left me. You will be able to here it from anywhere in your house.
Marlin65
04-02-2010, 02:42 PM
You might consider getting a Dart they push 3200 and the can be dialed back.
I run one on my closed loop and they are a great pump. You can get used ones for around $200 usually. Just make sure the shaft seals are good.
There was an ad for a Dart gold on here I think it was from Aquatics addiction his personal stuff that he had left over. Almost new if I remember right.
Marlin65
04-02-2010, 02:47 PM
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62515
Sorry its a Hammerhead bigger pump but great pump as well.
I thought someone had a dart for sale recently maybe check the for sale section.
Raven34
04-02-2010, 03:52 PM
If you find a Dart you will be very happy with it, almost silent with your other equipment running skimmer and such.
ILIKECOUGARS
04-02-2010, 04:02 PM
BA on line has them.
http://www.bigalsonline.ca/BigAlsCA/ctl3664/cp18053/si4295644/cl0/impellerassemblyformagdrive3600pump
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 05:17 PM
You might just want to cut that pump out. That mag will be so loud that you wont be able to think. I tried a mag 24 as a return and my wife almost left me. You will be able to here it from anywhere in your house.

I would if I had another option out there that would cost under $100 ATM I am tapped.

You might consider getting a Dart they push 3200 and the can be dialed back.
I run one on my closed loop and they are a great pump. You can get used ones for around $200 usually. Just make sure the shaft seals are good.
There was an ad for a Dart gold on here I think it was from Aquatics addiction his personal stuff that he had left over. Almost new if I remember right.
So the dart would be a good choice to replace this pump as soon as I get $$$ would you say .Again need an option that will not cost to much right now but once the 155 BF has been picked up I will have money to buy a new pump.
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 05:19 PM
BA on line has them.
http://www.bigalsonline.ca/BigAlsCA/ctl3664/cp18053/si4295644/cl0/impellerassemblyformagdrive3600pump

OUCH I have found them cheaper then that just have to find out how they ship and how fast.
Raven34
04-02-2010, 05:39 PM
Maybe just run a couple of power heads until some money comes in if you have some. It will save some money.
The Grizz
04-02-2010, 05:53 PM
Maybe just run a couple of power heads until some money comes in if you have some. It will save some money.

I have more then one tank I am working on so it will get used some where and would still need to be fixed. And I don't want power heads in the new 8' DT even if it is temp solution.