New 46 Gallon bow reef

[Aquaria]

ok well here goes like title says got a tank been cycling 2 weeks picking up lights (not sure let u know friday) the powerhead looks small do i need 2? got flow in the back from the canister filter makes the water rotate on its own.(ill take pics this weekend) got live sand from seller but i dont know if i like it its fine sand and kicks up REALLY easy advice welcome (again pics fri).canister filter eheim 2217 was reading it was rated for 75 gallons if its the right one, stealth200w sub,remora skimmer? HOB (dont think its the pro but i pick up friday), no live rock it will be last for of course financial complications 480 bucks is alot when i just spent 500 on equipment looking to buy used (if any offers) AND aiming for Fish / coral Dec25-jan25

ANY advice is appreciated and pics for ideas would be cool thinking an island somewhere in the tank for a coral species mabey a bridge with cave system

P.S whats a good stocking rule 1/2 inch to a gallon or the 1 fish to 10 gallon iv heard both

[makana]

You will want to get the live rock in sooner rather than later. There is often die off during transport and that will result in a cycle after adding the live rock.

Really fine sand such as sugar sand will settle in after a short while. The really fine particles sink to the bottom of the sand bed and then it doesn't kick up too bad. And because it will be the heavier particles that do kick up they settle back down quickly. But there are lots of substrates to choose from.

As far as flow goes 10X water turnover per hour is generally considered the minimum. So for a 46 gallon tank 460 gph would be the minimum.

Canister filters are generally considered to be nitrate factories, meaning they can cause high nitrates if not cleaned often. Most people with a reef tank remove the filter media and only use the canister for flow. The live rock will be your filtration.

Good Luck!

[Aquaria]

TY If i remember correctly the powerhead was rated for 460, but ill get to see in 2 more days lol. might be getting some live rock in a tank im thinking of buying for my FW fish, but its covered in red algea or somthing but i have no info yet. so the canister wont even be usefull with diff media in it? will i needthe canister at all if i got the powerhead, or is it possible to turn the canister into a refugium? and iv noticed so far that the dust from sand took 2 days to settle when i was leveling it out so i moved alot os sand around but it seemed long, it is my first SW. but all in all the pics will tell the story .... hurry friday.

[freddy]

Good to here,I have a 46 gallon bowfront too,have had it running for over 2yrs.

[Aquaria]

Good to here,I have a 46 gallon bowfront too,have had it running for over 2yrs.

OMG you have no idea how exctied i am now after seeing your tank lol people are going to walk in my house and say WoW lol since its the first thing you see from the front door well that and my kitchen :P great tank i want bubble coral so bad

[Aquaria]

what do you have for daily weekly and monthly matanince after 2 years? as i heard that the older it is the more self sustained it is

[makana]

so the canister wont even be usefull with diff media in it? will i needthe canister at all if i got the powerhead, or is it possible to turn the canister into a refugium?

If you have enough flow from the powerheads you don't need the canister. Since you have it though there are probably some articles floating around on how to mod it into a fuge. You could also toss some carbon in it when needed.

[Aquaria]

Ty ill prob be able to find a use for it lol

[Aquaria]

well i got good news and bad. ,good is that my cycle was almost done and bad new is when i tried to "modify" the brace it broke :( BIG mistake. I did however want to change the suger sand stuff to a more course live sand like http://www.bigalsonline.ca/BigAlsCA/ctl3664/cp17368/si1318777/cl0/caribseaaragaliveindopacificblackreefsand20lb so it was a good thing. i checked aquagiant in edmonton, SS store said NS store does custom bracing. thinking of getting a glass brace put in, mabey a small eurobrace / center brace idk though calling tomorrow see whats possible. 2 weeks from now should have tank fixed, sand in, filled, cycling and get fish and coral in no time. Just a little setback BUT i do have some pics. but i got plans for the top to have a tab inside the tank, for the lid thats in the pics to sit on. once its all set up i think it will be a great tank to look at.
oh and i know its in front of the window but were getting a heavy black drape to hang and sealing that window for the winter. while i had it running temp was stable even after it snowed no flucuations.

[Aquaria]

So i got a price quote on the glass brace install and its 30 bucks. went to blueworld today, nice place a bamboo shark just hatched. going to get some indo pacific black live sand ordered in. i want a tank with some lps, bubble, hammer, brain, is my current 4x39w T5HO (single reflector i think, idk if that matters) good enough to house them.

[freddy]

I have the same tank,sumpless,4x39watt T5HO nova extreme,I currently house,squamosa clam,frogspawn,green star polyps,bubble coral,toadstool leather and 3 different kinds of mushrooms,had them all under pc lighting for almost 2yrs until I upgraded my lighting.

[Aquaria]

well that is what i want to hear :P i want bubble, frog, brain and a couple sps plus my current fish list is in the order i want them Dragon goby, 3-6 months later since i need to get my sump/refugium built then ill get a red scooter blenny, then 2 clowns with a bubble tip, and last flame angel open to suggestions. been reading flame angels are prone to nipping coral anyone have comments on that.

[freddy]

I have a bicolour angle,nips at my kenya tree once in a while but thats about it,had a coral beauty,a few months back best fish I ever had,don't know about the flames though,I heard you can get a good one,and some can be horrible.

[Aquaria]

hmm, well good thing i got lots of time since i need to do some more research

[Aquaria]

Well i filled my tank pre maturely and the brace popped, dident know about the long cure time and i was misinformed. i emptyed half the tank and tomorrow im going to clean, and reseal then clamp for a week. if that holds then ill refill the water and hopefully my rocks dont die :(

[manaf]

pop ur rocks in a garbage can with a powerhead and heater and it should be fine

[Aquaria]

ok well its been a little while since my last post, so here goes. i fixed the brace got the sand and cured rock in, then the clean up crew 2 emerald crabs, (i dont like em so far they have killed a peppermint shrimp keep going at my other one. might be giving away in edmonton if anyone is interested.) 1 peppermint shimp, 3 narcceses snails (mind spelling :P) 2 cerith, i think (cone shell) 2 turbos spiral into a point type shell. (i dident know at first so i might get rid of em if they get bigger) 4 small hermit crabs one is orange with a larage purple claw. after 2 weeks, about dec 27 i put in 2 juv clowns.
i went for a inlaw visit and came back to my diatom outbreak as i was reading all new tanks go through.
now will it go away on its own or do i need to do some sort of work, snails and hermits happily eating away at it. also im planning a 20% water change 2 days from now, as i need water from safeway. want to stop using tapwater, and now that the tank is full i can make one trip at a time lol.
. P.S pics coming soon as i need to borrow my dads camera, need to buy my own :P.

[Aquaria]

new pics things are looking good so far, got through my diatom outbreak and my other 15lbs of live rock will be ready soon prob thur fri. should i add all the gunk from the bottom of the rock tank to my DT. can anyone tell me what the orange stuff on the hammer is? and is that an acanlord? prob looks weird cuz its a frag and iv only seen colonies.any advice on stocking limits for coral and if i get the max amount of fish, does it mean i have to get less coral?http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/picture.php?albumid=272&pictureid=2518
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[salty210]

have fun

[Aquaria]

bump

[lobsterboy]

the orange looks like a sponge, and it looks like an acan lord to me. nice green

[Aquaria]

Is the sponge a bad thing, should i remove it? If so how and thank u i like the green to should get nicer once i get him in the light a little more

[Aquaria]

dident get pics of my duncan before cuz he was closed but here is is, i like him alot so far. and im getting alot of micro bubbles any thoughts?

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[Aquaria]

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[fishytime]

The micro bubbles could be from the water dropping from the output of whatever it is on the back right of your tank.

[Aquaria]

thats what i was thinking and its the protien skimmer

[zazzoo]

I to0 have a 46 gallon bow front ... do it right and it could look like mine

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/titaniumauto/IMG_2692Large.jpg

[doubblea]

Hi im trying desperatly trying to sell my whole system. This is part of my add thats on kijiji . Please contact me if interested. This complete system. 150 gallon tank, 6' x 3'x 2' wide. Oak stand with lid. 500 watt hqi lighting system with cooling fans. 54 gallon sump tank. Brand new dart pump 3600 gph. Protien skimmer. All plumbing. Heater. All chemicals. 100lbs of live rock. 2 clown fish , 2 cardnial fish, assorted snails and hermit crabs. Assorted corals in cluding a large anomie, brain coral, cabbage coral, assorted mushroom corals and polyps. This is the full complete system . Well worth over $9000.00 . Must sell moving. $3000.00 obo the price is negotionable. I must sell this whole system. Wiil take first resonable offer.

[Aquaria]

Way to hijack my thread lol plz sell your stuff in buy sell trade forums thankyou

[JDigital]

I to0 have a 46 gallon bow front ... do it right and it could look like mine

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt311/titaniumauto/IMG_2692Large.jpg

A Scopas AND Regal Tang in a 46G........ :lol:




Aquaria, your tank is looking good and healthy so far.. Can you fill the tank more? That would eliminate the microbubbles from the Skimmer probably. As for your question about the sponge, they are usually a good thing to see. :wink: Beneficial filtration.

[Aquaria]

found these two think one is a mushroom and one is a leather or cup ??

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and ty jdigital so far so good :) i filled it more after the pics and it seems to have helped a bit, so ill try more

[Aquaria]

Well my new shrimp is going, he swimming weird and out on the open sitting on a hermit at one point so I'm thinking he wants to be a meal. and I got major algea issues so I think I may be over feeding perms were normal, although I have had a nitrate spike .5 and phosphat at 0.25 yesterday I'll so tests right now and post tommorow. And next shrimp will be done drip method lol.

[Aquaria]

ok well perms are normal cept nitrates at 10 and phospate at 0.25. shrimp was just molting lol he seems to be ok now. added a korala nano so im up to 750ish gph, ducan unhappy since i did that but ill give another day see if he gets used to it. waiting to see if the nitrates and phos level out

[Aquaria]

Well all is good I cut back on the feeding and looks like algea has stopped or at least slowed but purple is getting dark and I see some red starting on one rock

other rocks just look green lol picked up some star polyps got them on there own little island up front bottom pics coming later waiting for main lights to start

[Aquaria]

ok problems first my start polyps turned purplely or white down the middle as in pic, by lights off it looked to be going green again but wont know till 6ish tonight. second my cynaria looks to be getting white spots on the flesh at first i thought bleaching but idk any advice would be apprecated lol ill post a pic of the white spots about 6-7ish.
and almost forgot i made a BIG mistake last night i decided my duncan dident like the new spot so i moved him out of the flow a little more and i thought i should epoxy him since he could fall over a little easier where he was and then i thought NAW he hasent fallin yet. well i got up this morning to find my electric blue hermit sitting right where the duncan was found him head first in the sand THANK GOD he dident die and nuke the tank, he is now epoxied and i wont be making that mistake.

now forgive my crappy photos as i have a 2magapixil camera phone
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and these are cool got them at night with a flashlight

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this is the star polyp see the grey/white/purple strip??

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[Aquaria]

ok well lastnight i got to see my emerald crab have babies very lucky chance heres the thread
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60189

and the worst news coming home from work today was i think my heater is broken on and almost fried my tank i THINK i may have saved it might hold of on my WC for 2-4 days any thoughts on this

more later
Death Toll so far
1 pepperment shrimp..
all my sand snails(4) everything else has survived and recovered