Well my new 50 gallon tank just blew

[Jack]

Setup a new tank for the new place we just bought and what did I just come home to?

A flood. Not an inch of water in the tank.

All the softies are saging dry. Must of happened in the last 3 hours.

Tank was sumpless and super simple.

I guess I'm out.

[Leah]

So Sorry to hear that. What a thing to come home too!

[Pazil]

Sorry to hear that...WoW! Good luck with everything.

Lawrence

[karazy]

ouch!! that sucks!

did a whole pane of glass pop out, or it sprung a leak, or did a rock fall badly, or what?

[Jack]

Anyone want to pickup all the livestock and rock?

[Jack]

I think it sprung a leak on the bottom.

[Jack]

if you want to rescue drying liverock, sand and corals.

[MikeP]

That sucks man, sorry to hear about it.

[fragNplug]

whys this always happen when no ones home to stop it?!

[Jack]

Ya I hear you. I was here at 5:30 dropping something off, fed the fish, and when I got home at 8:30 there was no water.

Someone is coming for the livestock! Thank you!

[Lance]

Man, that SUCKS!

[Delphinus]

My God .. Sorry Jack :cry:

[Jack]

Well, the tanks taken down and outside. Carpets are all cleaned up and livestock is with a friend. Not to bad afterall. :eyeroll:

... just not sure if I'll setup a tank again.

[Jack]

No worries, **** happens... just usually its the other guy.

[cprowler]

Just finished putting everything in my sump, everything looks quite good considering.

I guess we'll see what survives over the next few days and you can figure out what you want to do, I think most of it will be fine.

[danny zubot]

Sorry about your luck, any idea as to why the tank would just break like that? I'm glad someone has rescued the corals.

[Jack]

Glad to hear everything looks okay so far. I don't want my stuff messing up your system.

Tank was bought brand new and I went sumpless to avoid any leaks or floods. The only thing that could of failed was the tank and it did just that. I can't belive it. Stand was strong and level.

[Mrfish55]

Tank was bought brand new and I went sumpless to avoid any leaks or floods.

Now see, thats the problem right there, if you drilled at least eight holes in it and ran a sump, a fuge, a couple closed loops and grow out tank you would have been fine! Seriously though I feel your pain, I had a 60 blow apart at two in the morning once, not fun. Just a little bump in the road, take some time to think things out, now's a good time for an upgrade:biggrin: hope it all works out for you.

[cprowler]

Glad to hear everything looks okay so far. I don't want my stuff messing up your system.


I just checked on things and everything looks ok, all 5 fish are fine and the corals and rock look ok.

I'm going to make up some water and do a water change.

[christyf5]

Aww Jack, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope this doesn't keep you out for long.

[Johnny Reefer]

.... Tank was bought brand new .....
Warranty?

[lastlight]

I hate reading stories like these. Sorry to hear about that...I have nightmares about that very thing.

I've taken precautions so nothing short of my display breaking will ruin my main floor. But if it ever does...

I would have no option of rebuilding.

[Chowder]

Sorry to here that Jack. Hope you stay in the game.

Chris

[fkshiu]

Warranty?

Yes, what kind of tank was it?

[Jack]

I just checked on things and everything looks ok, all 5 fish are fine and the corals and rock look ok.

I'm going to make up some water and do a water change.

Thanks.

Thats so awesome that the fish made it.

Tank was an All-Glass.

J&L opens at 11am so I will call Jeff in a minute.

I just took the rest of the day off and rented a couple of those carpet blower fans - just gottem' setup - I think it'll work for drying it out. I'll shampoo the carpet after the underlay is dry.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks for all the kind words.

[Jack]

Windows are open, heat is cranked, bathroom fans are on. I just need a magic wand. Anything else?

I didn't think a 100% water change was gonna be this hard.

[Rbacchiega]

holy crap this sucks. what's the word from J&L?? Hope this doesn't put you out for long

[Jack]

Well the All-Glass tank wasn't setup on an All-Glass stand so I'm fcuked.

[Rbacchiega]

That's garbage. What a load of BS.

[Madreefer]

That's garbage. What a load of BS.

For sure that is BS!! Thats bad on J&L's part for not standing behind their customer. Should be able to overlook that. Sorry to hear about your mishap. That sucks.

[Jack]

Eh, don't sweat it. You sound more angry than I am.

I used to work there. I knew the policy.

If I knew the tank would explode in my living room after 1 week I woulnd't of bought it.

[Jack]

Funny, thinking back:

Fiance "you should get the 65 gallon, its only $4 dollars more"

Me "nah, don't want to go that big in case theres a flood"

[Madreefer]

Eh, don't sweat it. You sound more angry than I am.

I used to work there. I knew the policy.

If I knew the tank would explode in my living room after 1 week I woulnd't of bought it.

Geez maybe I should change my name. Everyone always thinks I'm angry. Hard to communicate over computers.

[Rbacchiega]

oooh change it to
"Onlyslightlydisgruntledreefer"

That'd be fantastic.

So Jack, are you going to be grabbing another tank soon?

[Drock169]

Jeff wasnt able to do anything for you jack?

I cant believe that happened to you

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Oh no Jack! Im so sorry to hear this! Terrible...

I remember you telling me how careful you needed to be in the new place too :(

Couldn't have been worse timing. This kind of thing has always worried me so much.

Hope you don't get out though. Good luck with whatever you do.

[Pier Pressure]

Are All Glass the same manufacturer that make Perfecto tanks? Because I had two of them (150 gallon) spring leaks about eleven months apart. Luckily we were home both times. They were on the correct stand, too. So sorry to hear about this.

[fishoholic]

Sorry to hear that happend to you. A little shocked that J&L wouldn't replace or reimburse you, even if it was on a different stand, it shouldn't of broke after only a week!

[cprowler]

I put Jack's T5 fixture up over that end of the sump (75g) and just about everything has opened up.

Not the best situation but I think it will work for a few days.

I'm making up some water right now for a 40g W/C tonight or tomorrow. I think I'll raise the height of the sump water level too.

[Jack]

Thank you very much for rescuing the fish and corals - a total loss would be tough to swallow.

I've sent Jeff @ J&L an e-mail.

Honestly the tank was great. I had it so simple, T5's, Softies, LPS, Gorgonians, easy fish, kalk top off, no sump.

[cprowler]

No worries, glad to help.

[Jamieh]

I am also a retailer of All-Glass tanks and have had a few crack over the years. I would suggest you give all-glass a call as we have done this in the past and they have always replaced the tank. I know the warranty states that it must be on all-glass stand but I have never personally heard of them enforcing that rule. Calling them would definately be worth a try.

[Tom R]

Hi Jack

Sorry to here of your disaster.

If you need anything from me let me know.


I have lots of softies if you need some.


Tom R

[Norstar]

One day, they are going to invent a new tank that is fool proof. They will look back at those poor people that lived in the early 21st century, and wonder how those poor people ever managed.

[Jack]

Well after some thought - the odds of this happening twice...

If J&L can replace the tank and my AC Jr and Osmolator are okay I think I'll setup again. Both contollers were a little wet but functioning when I tore the tank down so maybe they are still okay - I'll fire them up and check them tomorrow after work.

Bill saved all my coral, liverock, and fish so there can be a happy ending.

KT said "can you double silicone tanks?" Maybe thats not a bad Idea - lol.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Well after some thought - the odds of this happening twice...

If J&L can replace the tank and my AC Jr and Osmolator are okay I think I'll setup again. Both contollers were a little wet but functioning when I tore the tank down so maybe they are still okay - I'll fire them up and check them tomorrow after work.

Bill saved all my coral, liverock, and fish so there can be a happy ending.

KT said "can you double silicone tanks?" Maybe thats not a bad Idea - lol.


My ACjr fell in a bucket of water and still works. I just took it apart and let it dry for a while in front of the fire. Put it back together and its still running fine.

Hope yours keeps working! Good luck man.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Holy smokes Jack. This sucks!

Hope things work out. Let me know if you need anything. I have lots of spare stuff kicking around.

If you can't get the tank replaced free, I have a new 65g 3' Perfecto still at BAs that I never picked up yet. Let me know if you need it.

Anthony

[Mrfish55]

Well after some thought - the odds of this happening twice...

If J&L can replace the tank and my AC Jr and Osmolator are okay I think I'll setup again. Both contollers were a little wet but functioning when I tore the tank down so maybe they are still okay - I'll fire them up and check them tomorrow after work.

Bill saved all my coral, liverock, and fish so there can be a happy ending.

KT said "can you double silicone tanks?" Maybe thats not a bad Idea - lol.

Before you fire up the electronics I would seriously consider opening them up for a cleaning, electronics stores have a spray that will clean/dry/seal the circiut board after it has been wet, any dried salts on the board will shorten the life considerably, I have a can around here somewhere if you want the name of it, works great.

[Myka]

Ohhhhhhh Jack!!! Sorry to hear about your situation. :(

[banditpowdercoat]

Before you fire up the electronics I would seriously consider opening them up for a cleaning, electronics stores have a spray that will clean/dry/seal the circiut board after it has been wet, any dried salts on the board will shorten the life considerably, I have a can around here somewhere if you want the name of it, works great.

Pretty much any "contact Cleaner" will be fine on electronics. Rubbing Alcohol is fine as well. Got to clean any salts or deposits as they usually are conductive and will lead to letting the smoke out

[Skimmerking]

hey jack man im so sorry i was going to ask you about your tank the next time that you were on MSN messenger, i guess i wont ask you that

[hockey nut]

Wow!.....Bummer man

Hang in there. Setting up a new tank is always the best part.

Say hi to KT for me.

Cheers

[Jack]

Thanks guys.

Anyone have a carpet knee stretcher thingy to re-install my carpet? I'm not sure how to put it back.

[Delphinus]

You should be able to rent one from a tool rental place if nothing else..

[Jack]

Ok. Thanks Tony.

AC Jr. is fine.

Osmolator seems funky. The too high light is solid red, too low light is blinking and alarm. The same alarm sound I came home to.

[Jack]

From the Tunze website:

" If Red LED „Too high“ and red LED „Too low“ are lit and are flashing simultaneously = Water has penetrated into the controller and has switched off all functions. Open the device (see overleaf); dry the PCB and clean, if and when necessary. If both LEDs light up again after some hours, residual salts and high humidity may be the cause. The device has to be examined in a specialised workshop."

Where can I easily get this electronic cleaner stuff?

[smokinreefer]

whoa dude.
sorry to hear about the tank.
guess you moved already eh?
gimme a shout if you need anything.

[Jack]

Well J&L has fixed me up. Thanks Jeff.

[Jack]

Before you fire up the electronics I would seriously consider opening them up for a cleaning, electronics stores have a spray that will clean/dry/seal the circiut board after it has been wet, any dried salts on the board will shorten the life considerably, I have a can around here somewhere if you want the name of it, works great.

Sure, whats the name?

[pastout]

Thanks guys.

Anyone have a carpet knee stretcher thingy to re-install my carpet? I'm not sure how to put it back.

id help you out but i live out in abbotsford just thought id give you some advice(im a floor layer by trade) strech away from your door way first then hook one end on the tack strip underneath. then strech it across to that other wall. then between those two points hooks that wall on and do the same for all the walls. it will keep it straight and buckle free. and peice of advice dont be suprised if you have to cut a litle off when you re stretch it

[Jack]

Well, I'm re-setup!

Got a new tank and just got my livestock back from my friend last Wednesday.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/JMcNulty_album/IMG_0151.jpg

[hillegom]

Looking good Jack. Glad to see you have sprung back.

[Jack]

Looking good Jack. Glad to see you have sprung back.

Thanks.

[Delphinus]

Does look great. Win for softies tanks! :)

[Jason McK]

Looks Great Jack, You even have some more room in this one.
I see what you mean the 1/2 circle doesn't distort that much

J

[H2o2]

I went 4 months without (tank) so I know what its like and the preme looks great .

[hockey nut]

looks great Jack.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Looks real nice Jack. Glad things are getting back to normal after the big blow out.

Anthony

[karazy]

looks good. once some of those leathers grow nice and tall it'll look really cool.

[christyf5]

Looks great Jack! Glad to see you're back in the game :wink:

[Jack]

Thanks everybody. I'm glad I didn't get out.

I'm enjoying this sumpless softy tank... it's so easy.

Equipment:

76 gallon Oceanic Half- circle
Tunze Osmolator - used for top off
Tunze Nanocleaner - eliminates surface scum and gives a place for the osmolator sensors
150w Ebo Heater
Aquacontroller Jr - Light and heater control
Tunze Nanostream 6025 - flow
Sunlight Supply New Wave 4x24w T5 fixture - 3xAquablue+, 1x6000k
B-Ionic 20mls every day or so - I don't test anymore.

4 damsels, Coral beauty, and a I have a pair of Percs on the way.

Pretty basic but I'm enjoying it.

[paddyob]

Glad to hear everything looks okay so far. I don't want my stuff messing up your system.

Tank was bought brand new and I went sumpless to avoid any leaks or floods. The only thing that could of failed was the tank and it did just that. I can't belive it. Stand was strong and level.

Most major tank brands carry warranty. if it is defect, and not user caused, you should be able to get it replaced. if not, scream and shout. i would. sorry , but dont give up.

[paddyob]

For sure that is BS!! Thats bad on J&L's part for not standing behind their customer. Should be able to overlook that. Sorry to hear about your mishap. That sucks.

Were you advised to buy all glass stand to keep warranty. if not, keep fighting.

[Chowder]

Glad to see your still in it Jack. Tank looks great.

Chris

[Jack]

Most major tank brands carry warranty. if it is defect, and not user caused, you should be able to get it replaced. if not, scream and shout. i would. sorry , but dont give up.

J&L replaced the tank.

[paddyob]

I should have read the whole thread

[Ken]

Hey Jack, doesn't seem like any diaster took place at all, looking good. Don't let me tell you so, acrylic tank........ regards Ken