To get a Clown Trigger or not - hmmmm - Help!

[Norstar]

I've been wanting a Clown Trigger for some time. I finally have an empty 50 gal. FOWLR looking for a tenant. I only have a few snails and hermit crabs in the tank.

I am looking for so pros and cons regarding this fish

Any help!? :biggrin:

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

I've been wanting a Clown Trigger for some time. I finally have an empty 50 gal. FOWLR looking for a tenant. I only have a few snails and hermit crabs in the tank.

I am looking for so pros and cons regarding this fish

Any help!? :biggrin:

First off a 50G is no place for a Clown Trigger unless its very temporary. For one they grow fast and reach about 13-16" and are very active. Two, the smaller the tank, the more aggressive they tend to get.

If you have to have one, I would find a small guy no more than 2" and have an upgrade planned for a few months later. Please be sure that the upgrade is absolutely possible though and not just a maybe. A clown will not be happy in a 50G. They are really no different from tangs in the sense that they need room.

Personally I think a 200G + FOWLR is really the only place for a Clown Trigger and even then, really a Trigger only tank. They are not compatible with many fish.

A good alternative would be an Undulted Trigger! Great little fish that only reach about 7". Need to be kept on their own or just with fish like damsels. So a species only tank. They make a great 50G though! Just make sure the filtration is good. Over the years, I have found Undys to be just as aggressive as Clowns really...there are always exceptions but you can't really count on it.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

I've also seen some very aggressive Clown triggers. They are normally among the most aggressive & will bite & kill most tank mates. If you're lucky, you get a nice small one that grows up with other fish & learn not to eat their tankmates, but larger ones for sale at LFS are often very nasty.

[Norstar]

Thanks for the suggestions!

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

I've also seen some very aggressive Clown triggers. They are normally among the most aggressive & will bite & kill most tank mates. If you're lucky, you get a nice small one that grows up with other fish & learn not to eat their tankmates, but larger ones for sale at LFS are often very nasty.

Yes I agree. Your best shot is to find a small guy and grow in it up in a community tank--he still may just snap one day but better than trying a bigger one for sure.

[my2rotties]

In my research on triggers I have read that clown triggers will chew on powerhead wires, or any plastic the can get at in a tank. This months Corals magazine has a huge write up about many different species of triggers and the pros and cons of owning them. The author of the article mentioned keeping them is well worth the trouble at times but he was speaking about blue throats more then the rest. However he made mention that all trigger owners love their fish and they are fun to own.

I have a Picasso trigger and I can't imagine my tank without the little guy. He is always busy digging his tunnel to China under his rock work, and blowing mouthfuls of substrate every where. I don't know a lot about clown triggers since adding one is not an option for me personally. He does chase my sleep goby at time if he gets too close to his underground oasis (I don't know what is down there, but I think it is another world altogether). Other wise he gets along with all my fish and pretty much minds his own business and excavates. He will eat anything I throw in, and is very hardy and ncie to look at.

In my neck of the woods I have only seen larger clown triggers available. They seem to have lots of attitude.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

In my research on triggers I have read that clown triggers will chew on powerhead wires, or any plastic the can get at in a tank. This months Corals magazine has a huge write up about many different species of triggers and the pros and cons of owning them. The author of the article mentioned keeping them is well worth the trouble at times but he was speaking about blue throats more then the rest. However he made mention that all trigger owners love their fish and they are fun to own.

I have a Picasso trigger and I can't imagine my tank without the little guy. He is always busy digging his tunnel to China under his rock work, and blowing mouthfuls of substrate every where. I don't know a lot about clown triggers since adding one is not an option for me personally. He does chase my sleep goby at time if he gets too close to his underground oasis (I don't know what is down there, but I think it is another world altogether). Other wise he gets along with all my fish and pretty much minds his own business and excavates. He will eat anything I throw in, and is very hardy and ncie to look at.

In my neck of the woods I have only seen larger clown triggers available. They seem to have lots of attitude.

Yeah its not easy to find the little guys. They tend to come in quite large it seems.

Blue Throats are a whole different story when it comes to triggers. They are about the most docile you will find. Still get way too big for a 50G though.

I have had a triggers chew on cords in the past, not good. Its hit or miss really. Same as puffers, many with chew on cords and others not.

[my2rotties]

If faced with chewing what is the most proactive prevention? I would rather fix the issue before it ever becomes a life threatening avoidable disaster. Pickles (my Picasso) is never near wires nor is Griffie. I was going to ask about after reading about it.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

If faced with chewing what is the most proactive prevention? I would rather fix the issue before it ever becomes a life threatening avoidable disaster. Pickles (my Picasso) is never near wires nor is Griffie. I was going to ask about after reading about it.

I think you need to go buy some Vortechs ;)

Some people use rubber tubing or PVC/ABS (black) to hide the cords in.

I wouldn't worry too much about Griff...I think he would have chewed by now.

[my2rotties]

I need to get the tunzes to go with my profilux. I have korillias now and they seemed fine until I bought the controller, now I need to purchase the Tunzes to make the best of the controller.

When you had nipping issues on your cords, what happened, dare I ask?

I think you need to go buy some Vortechs ;)

Some people use rubber tubing or PVC/ABS (black) to hide the cords in.

I wouldn't worry too much about Griff...I think he would have chewed by now.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

I need to get the tunzes to go with my profilux. I have korillias now and they seemed fine until I bought the controller, now I need to purchase the Tunzes to make the best of the controller.

When you had nipping issues on your cords, what happened, dare I ask?

Current in the tank. I shocked myself. It wasn't that bad yet (chewing) and I was lucky. I use a GFCI now which would trip if the wires were exposed to water, so safer now.

I think it was my dogface but I never actually caught him in the act. Just found the chewed up cords.

[my2rotties]

Glad nobody got hurt...

Current in the tank. I shocked myself. It wasn't that bad yet (chewing) and I was lucky. I use a GFCI now which would trip if the wires were exposed to water, so safer now.

I think it was my dogface but I never actually caught him in the act. Just found the chewed up cords.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Glad nobody got hurt...

No but I learned my lesson.

[my2rotties]

Will be doing some preventative measures ASAP. Did discuss it with the hubby after reading the article. I just wondered if the wiring covers for automotive use would work. You can get any colour you want. I just don't know about poisons leeching into the water column and such to take the risk. I won't be doing the tunzes for awhile yet. The only wire in the display is of course form the powerheads.

Even the fellow that owns one of the LFS mentioned to me that he has had clown triggers chew cords, as well as one or two Picassos.

No but I learned my lesson.