2012 The end of the world...

[my2rotties]

A friend called me this morning and we were chatting about politics and such. I mention humanity is pretty much destined to destroy itself, and my friend mentioned it is supposed to happen in 2012. I laughed about it since how many times have we heard this already.:wink:

So I am home alone this fine Saturday night and decided to look into it... I was surprised about all the info there is and much of it is not alarmist... So here are some tidbits I found because I am a loser and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night.

Mayan Calendar Ends on December 21, 2012

Mayans were the first people to predict the end of the world in 2012. They were notorious for their highly accurate astrological tools they built out of stone and for bloodthirsty sacrificing of Virgins.

Mayans calculated the length of the lunar moon thousands of years ago - according to their calculations, the lunar moon lasts 329.53020 days - which is only inaccurate by 34 seconds. If Mayans were able to calculate the length of Lunar Cycle so accurately thousands of years ago, is it possible that their calculation of the end of the world - which according to their calculations falls on December 21, 2012 - is also that accurate?

Sun Storms Reach its Peak in 2012

Scientists studying solar energy and the behavior of the Sun have noticed that the Sun Storms have been radiating the Earth with so much deadly energy, many of human made satellites and power grids have been knocked out as results of this radiation. The calculations suggest that this solar activity is going to get worse and its peak will be reached in 2012.

Religions, Bible, I-Ching, Hindu - All Warn Us About 2012

It’s not only scientists that are coming with warnings regarding the end of the world, but also religions of all sorts say the same. Western book of all books – Bible, representing Christians reveals that the battle between Goon and Evil “Armageddon” has been set to take place in 2012. Chinese Book of Changes also known as I-Ching also mentions 2012 as the year of the end of the world. Hindu teachings suggest the very same thing.

Yellowstone Volcano Will Erupt in 2012

The Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone National Park in the US is world famous for its thermal springs which sit right above the world’s largest volcano. The pattern of erupting the Yellowstone volcano has been following repeats itself every 650 thousand years. For whatever reason, the volcano is past overdue with its eruption, but the pressure in its depths is building and the geologists predict that it will go off in 2012 with a massive bang, filling the sky with thick layers of ash, potentially blocking the sun and throwing the Earth into a 15 000 years long freezing winter.

Poles Will Shift in 2012

The Earth is protected from Sun’s radiations by the magnetic field that surrounds it. The North and the South poles of the Earth Swap places every 750 thousands years or so. When pole swapping occurs, the magnetic field disappears often for as long as hundred years exposing the planet to the radiation of the Sun that is so strong it will burn the skin crisp in seconds. Right now, the pole swapping is overdue about 30 000 years from its usual pattern. However, scientists are noticing that the poles are starting to shift faster and faster, moving about 25 kilometers every year, which is much faster than has ever been recorded before. This is likely a sign of the pole shift coming very, very soon. Scientists are estimating that the pole shift will take place in… you guessed it – year 2012.

So what do you all think... maybe I won't do my taxes for the next few years...:wink:

[Lance]

A friend called me this morning and we were chatting about politics and such. I mention humanity is pretty much destined to destroy itself, and my friend mentioned it is supposed to happen in 2012. I laughed about it since how many times have we heard this already.:wink:

So I am home alone this fine Saturday night and decided to look into it... I was surprised about all the info there is and much of it is not alarmist... So here are some tidbits I found because I am a loser and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night.

Mayan Calendar Ends on December 21, 2012

Mayans were the first people to predict the end of the world in 2012. They were notorious for their highly accurate astrological tools they built out of stone and for bloodthirsty sacrificing of Virgins.

Mayans calculated the length of the lunar moon thousands of years ago - according to their calculations, the lunar moon lasts 329.53020 days - which is only inaccurate by 34 seconds. If Mayans were able to calculate the length of Lunar Cycle so accurately thousands of years ago, is it possible that their calculation of the end of the world - which according to their calculations falls on December 21, 2012 - is also that accurate?

Sun Storms Reach its Peak in 2012

Scientists studying solar energy and the behavior of the Sun have noticed that the Sun Storms have been radiating the Earth with so much deadly energy, many of human made satellites and power grids have been knocked out as results of this radiation. The calculations suggest that this solar activity is going to get worse and its peak will be reached in 2012.

Religions, Bible, I-Ching, Hindu - All Warn Us About 2012

It’s not only scientists that are coming with warnings regarding the end of the world, but also religions of all sorts say the same. Western book of all books – Bible, representing Christians reveals that the battle between Goon and Evil “Armageddon” has been set to take place in 2012. Chinese Book of Changes also known as I-Ching also mentions 2012 as the year of the end of the world. Hindu teachings suggest the very same thing.

Yellowstone Volcano Will Erupt in 2012

The Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone National Park in the US is world famous for its thermal springs which sit right above the world’s largest volcano. The pattern of erupting the Yellowstone volcano has been following repeats itself every 650 thousand years. For whatever reason, the volcano is past overdue with its eruption, but the pressure in its depths is building and the geologists predict that it will go off in 2012 with a massive bang, filling the sky with thick layers of ash, potentially blocking the sun and throwing the Earth into a 15 000 years long freezing winter.

Poles Will Shift in 2012

The Earth is protected from Sun’s radiations by the magnetic field that surrounds it. The North and the South poles of the Earth Swap places every 750 thousands years or so. When pole swapping occurs, the magnetic field disappears often for as long as hundred years exposing the planet to the radiation of the Sun that is so strong it will burn the skin crisp in seconds. Right now, the pole swapping is overdue about 30 000 years from its usual pattern. However, scientists are noticing that the poles are starting to shift faster and faster, moving about 25 kilometers every year, which is much faster than has ever been recorded before. This is likely a sign of the pole shift coming very, very soon. Scientists are estimating that the pole shift will take place in… you guessed it – year 2012.

So what do you all think... maybe I won't do my taxes for the next few years...:wink:


I think i better "PARTY HEARTY" while I can. And get my ass to Africa to see the Serengeti like I've been promising myself for the last 5 years.

[Mrfish55]

Excellent, I just bought a new house, guess I'll get to cheat the bank out of 27 years worth of mortgage payments!! Oh and note to self - buy sunscreen

[RuGlu6]

We live in VERY interesting time.
Exciting for sure. a lot of people talking about pole shift, 11-11, planet X, RFID chips, HAARP(Russians have woodpecker system), end of there world.
One thing for sure, it is end of the world as we know it!

[my2rotties]

I just never really knew anything about this at all. I can only wonder about how many people have dug themselves shelter underground with canned goods that will last forever. For me, if this would happen, I would rather die then hide underground trying to exist.

First it was nuclear bombs, then aliens, asteroids and now this... I just wish I knew for sure so I would pay my bills and see the world for awhile before it ended.:neutral: You know foreclosures, repo men and tax collectors would work until we burned up taking all out stuff.

[Rbacchiega]

...stuff like this used to scare the b-jezus out of me. Now I kind of take everything with a grain of salt. Y2K never REALLY was a big deal, the asteroid never hit (although, realistically I think this is the most realistic end-of-days scenario in my mind)

Interesting read, but not too sure it'll ever ammount to anything LOL

[my2rotties]

Well you gave me more stuff to sink my teeth into on a Saturday night... I really am pathetic.... I have no idea of what most of this stuff you mentioned really is.

We live in VERY interesting time.
Exciting for sure. a lot of people talking about pole shift, 11-11, planet X, RFID chips, HAARP(Russians have woodpecker system), end of there world.
One thing for sure, it is end of the world as we know it!

[Lydia]

My teenage son has been freaked out about this for quite awhile now. He's asked several times for permission to build a bunker ;) I think it's very widespread and hyped in the teen domain... I remind him how we all worried about Y2K when he was 10, and nothing happened. Let's hope this is the same :P

Meanwhile I guess we shouldn't sweat the hit on our RRSPs, eh? We might never get the chance to use them - LOL

[my2rotties]

IN my childhood and teens it was nuclear war. Remember Red Dawn and all the other movies out there. It scared me pretty bad as a child. Its sad to see it happening in the newer generations as well. I would love to know what your son thinks is going to happen exactly?

My teenage son has been freaked out about this for quite awhile now. He's asked several times for permission to build a bunker ;) I think it's very widespread and hyped in the teen domain... I remind him how we all worried about Y2K when he was 10, and nothing happened. Let's hope this is the same :P

Meanwhile I guess we shouldn't sweat the hit on our RRSPs, eh? We might never get the chance to use them - LOL

[golf nut]

2012 ,

Perfect, I should have all my credit cards maxed out by then.

[EmilyB]

Thanks. :razz:

[Pan]

A friend called me this morning and we were chatting about politics and such. I mention humanity is pretty much destined to destroy itself, and my friend mentioned it is supposed to happen in 2012. I laughed about it since how many times have we heard this already.:wink:

So I am home alone this fine Saturday night and decided to look into it... I was surprised about all the info there is and much of it is not alarmist... So here are some tidbits I found because I am a loser and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night.

Mayan Calendar Ends on December 21, 2012



No..it starts over.

[my2rotties]

You mean you don't already? You have a marine aquarium right?

2012 ,

Perfect, I should have all my credit cards maxed out by then.

[Lydia]

IN my childhood and teens it was nuclear war. Remember Red Dawn and all the other movies out there. It scared me pretty bad as a child. Its sad to see it happening in the newer generations as well. I would love to know what your son thinks is going to happen exactly?

I just asked him, and he said he heard radiation from the sun will drive half the world's population insane, the poles will switch causing massive upheaval, and something about the Earth being lined up with a black hole... He wants to build a bunker, stock it with supplies, and live out the insanity...

I remember being terrified of nukes at his age, too (he's 18). My mother remembers practicing in school for bomb attacks (1950s). Every generation seems to have something to freak them out, but this one has information overload at their fingertips...

I like that comment about maxing out the credit cards - Good idea!! LOL

[hillegom]

Mine are maxed out already
Bring it on!

[Lydia]

My son just reminded me that there's no point in spending money on Christmas gifts that year, either - LOL

[Diana]

I heard that the partical accelerator over in... Europe? I cant even remember where it is.... the one they feared would cause a black hole... actually did but we wont notice it until 2012 :s

Ive studied Mayan culture intensely throughout my schooling and they were spot on with a lot of things, but every culture has an 'end of the world'. Its the inability of humans to wrap their heads around the concept of infinity, or forever. The vastness of time and space is so hard for me to grasp. So things must come to an end for us eventually. But even if humans are removed (which will be a blessing on this earth!) life will continue, in some form or another. :)

[fishoholic]

I don't really think anything will happen, but if it did I guess I wont have to worry about a pension plan!

[MikeP]

Phew, now I don't have to worry about that asteroid that's supposed to hit us in 2029 :razz:

[Leah]

I think it mean's, spend way more money on fun fish stuff! And go out with a in house
tidal wave.

[fragNplug]

bah humbug

[Rbacchiega]

+1 to the fact that it's hard for humans to grasp the concept of infinity.

I never used to think much of the stars. Then I had to take an astrology course in college and found out that what we see could really be gone. (the ammount of time it takes for the light from the star/planet to travel to our eyes...LIGHT YEARS). It's alot more complex, but basically, when you look up, there's a good chance that the stars you are seeing are already burned out. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

[Pan]

+1 to the fact that it's hard for humans to grasp the concept of infinity.

I never used to think much of the stars. Then I had to take an astrology course in college and found out that what we see could really be gone. (the ammount of time it takes for the light from the star/planet to travel to our eyes...LIGHT YEARS). It's alot more complex, but basically, when you look up, there's a good chance that the stars you are seeing are already burned out. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

I doubt science can tell us anything about infinity

[Lydia]

I think our society should decide that the world will end in 4044. Let's go with April 1st of that year. Um, let's say the planets will all collide, and maybe a star or two will burn out close to our solar system...Anything else we could add? We could call it the Canreef Prediction...

Let the teens of 4040 start their freak out - LOL

[Pan]

I heard that the partical accelerator over in... Europe? I cant even remember where it is.... the one they feared would cause a black hole... actually did but we wont notice it until 2012 :s

Ive studied Mayan culture intensely throughout my schooling and they were spot on with a lot of things, but every culture has an 'end of the world'. Its the inability of humans to wrap their heads around the concept of infinity, or forever. The vastness of time and space is so hard for me to grasp. So things must come to an end for us eventually. But even if humans are removed (which will be a blessing on this earth!) life will continue, in some form or another. :)
Large Hadron collider? Don't worry they broke it.

Higgs boson my a**

Thats the problem with the bloody scientists ...always making sh*t up and people believe them.

[BMW Rider]

The world will not end simply because human beings disappear from it. The world did just fine for millions of years before we showed up and will do just fine without us, even better perhaps.

[Delphinus]

Here's a webcam page for the Hadron collider:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Check it out, it's really neat!

[Diana]

Here's a webcam page for the Hadron collider:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Check it out, it's really neat!

HAHA I love it! :D

[VFX]

The whole 2012 thing will probably become the latest armageddon 'fad' when the hype & marketing surrounding Roland Emmerich's movie '2012' gets underway later this year.

It's an interesting looking movie staring John Cussack, with quite a few of the VFX shots done at Bridge Studios in Burnaby, BC.

2012 Movie Link (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/)

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[Tom R]

Does this mean as tax payers we wont have to pay for the 2010 Olympic? Thats the best news in months.

Tom R

[Jack]

Is this kinda like when all computers were supposed to crash in Y2K?

[Lydia]

The whole 2012 thing will probably become the latest armageddon 'fad' when the hype & marketing surrounding Roland Emmerich's movie '2012' gets underway later this year.

It's an interesting looking movie staring John Cussack, with quite a few of the VFX shots done at Bridge Studios in Burnaby, BC.

2012 Movie Link (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/)

.

Freaky!!! I don't dare show my son - he was terrified when The Day After Tomorrow came out :P

Looks like we're all going to get wet....

[PoonTang]

Wow 4 pages of posts and not 1 mention of Nostradamus. He has apparently be correct in the past many times. Even got 9-11 right if you interpret his wrightings correctly. Its been a few years but i remember reading that he apparently is predicting WW3 in around 2012 but the end of the world not until something like 3845 or something.
Now dont get started on the Bible Code thats just wack.

[Rbacchiega]

I was just going to bring him up actually. Wonder who is supposed to be the third Anti-Christ?

Have you ever read books containing his predictions. Some of them are so vast you have to wait for someone to tell you what it means and others are so spot on it's incredbile. I was doing some reading up on this 2012 stuff and some people think that it will be the end of humanity as we currently see it. Not total death, but an awakening, even going so far as to say we will get psychic abilities...wierd :der:

[my2rotties]

I have read much of his writings and always thought it was amazing. However I don't want to fall into the traps of believing anything that can be interpreted how we feel it should. I don't want to spend the nest four years worrying about something, but it does make one wonder. I also saw the movie trailer it was amazing. We as human beings are so small and insignificant in the universe and the possibilities of anything are endless.

It just saddens me that our youth are afraid of the end coming so soon. All of us should live each day like it is our last and rejoice in the time we are granted to live. If indeed the end is coming we should do all that we can do for our happiness and live our lives to the fullest. We might not be here tomorrow, and we don't have the luxury of knowing when we will go...

Wow 4 pages of posts and not 1 mention of Nostradamus. He has apparently be correct in the past many times. Even got 9-11 right if you interpret his wrightings correctly. Its been a few years but i remember reading that he apparently is predicting WW3 in around 2012 but the end of the world not until something like 3845 or something.
Now dont get started on the Bible Code thats just wack.

[chevyjaxon]

2012 yeah i heard about it, dont belive it though, i think its better to be oblivious to the fact that the sky is falling its easier to accept it when it happens dying is a part of life whether its now or later its going to happen to everybody and everything although we would surely explode if the poles shifted (due to lack of gravity)

[PoonTang]

Antichrist? LOL well acording to all of the bible code extracts on youtube its supposidly Vladimir Putin.

[bassman]

Well here goes.

From what I have come to understand humanity is evolving at a rate not seen since we emerged from water. Science proves this too. We are developing a 3rd Helix in our DNA, some children being born right now already have this Helix. These children are born lighter, reported to be able to move objects with thought, fill empty glasses of water by looking at them and they are telepathic.

The Mayan calendar is being mis-interpereted. By man!? how can this be? LOL The end of "time" is referring the end of keeping track of time, when once again we remember that time itself is man-made and simply does not exist.

There is a change taking place on our planet right now, it started some years ago. It is being reported in all sectors of life and being called something different by each one. Science says this...., religion says this....,theologist say this....,each sector is seeing something and describing it the way they are seeing it. The way it makes sense to them, but they are ALL seeing it.

I am sure I have lost a few of you by now which is okay, I am just another "source" describing it in a way that makes sense to me. Some will hear what I say while others won't, they will have to hear it in a way that makes sense to them. It will have to come from the source they currently rely on for their information.

I have spent my entire life exploring this thing we call life, where we are, how our world works, why we are here and where we are going. I have explored many areas but do not adhere to any one belief system. I look for the common denominators, the things they ALL agree on. I am happy to report that after 38 yrs I have figured it out and can explain it on pretty much any level.

However, due to the fact that these are my beliefs and only that I am not interested in participating in any arguments or debates. I know what I know because I am here to help but the nature of my message excludes arguing or trying to force my perceptions on those that do not wish to hear them.

That being said if any of you would like to know more and are coming with an open mind I would be more then happy to share my findings with you. PM me or send me an email at stacymartin22@shaw.ca

This is truly the best time to have ever lived!


Stacey

[sphelps]

From what I have come to understand humanity is evolving at a rate not seen since we emerged from water. Science proves this too. We are developing a 3rd Helix in our DNA, some children being born right now already have this Helix. These children are born lighter, reported to be able to move objects with thought, fill empty glasses of water by looking at them and they are telepathic.

Haha, really? I mean REALLY?? I think if a women giving birth to 8 children can make world wide news I'm pretty sure superheros would also make the news.

As for the poles switching, keep in mind this does happen every half million years or so and I don't know where the date 2012 came from because as far as I know it has only been narrowed down to within the next 1000 years. I'm not sure how anyone could pin point the date if they have no clue how long the process takes. Also Humans have not been through this before but apes have. I wouldn't expect much other than a lot of electrical storms and interference.

Also keep in mind many other "world end" predictions made have already passed and we're still here. Hopefully most of society isn't too gullible to buy into any of this.

[my2rotties]

I am on the fence about it and HOPE something does happen. Humanity is all abut money and profit. I really hope something does happen to control the population although I love my life and want to be here until I am old. People do not care what is happening in this world, and hopefully nature does do something to knock out population down. The earth owes us nothing and we should respect it. Many of us do, but hopefully mother nature MAKES us either change our ways or kills us off. I am not perfect and I know I don't help the earth's cause and protection the way that I should, however that is a whole different topic altogether.

Putting my flame suit on now.

[sphelps]

I am on the fence about it and HOPE something does happen. Humanity is all abut money and profit. I really hope something does happen to control the population although I love my life and want to be here until I am old. People do not care what is happening in this world, and hopefully nature does do something to knock out population down. The earth owes us nothing and we should respect it. Many of us do, but hopefully mother nature MAKES us either change our ways or kills us off. I am not perfect and I know I don't help the earth's cause and protection the way that I should, however that is a whole different topic altogether.

Putting my flame suit on now.
Wow, if you honestly felt that way how come your carbon footprint is at least 10 times better than it needs to be?
Pretty sad that someone could actually wish that kind of thing on the world, pretty disgusting if you ask me.

[karazy]

IMO i think its not going to happen.
Like who says the myans didn't just stop writing the calendar and decided they'd start writing it again when they needed more calendar?

And look at Y2K. everyone was freaked out about that too, but nothing happened.
The world is millions, possibly billions of years old. that means the solar flares of the sun happened before. It was defiantly not the end of the world.

What i'm trying to get at is we are just people. there will always be hundreds of conspiracy theories, or many religions, or many different answers to questions.

The thing is, we are just humans. There's no way we know everything and this could just be a theory that got really popular.

[Rbacchiega]

you're very mature for your age, Karazy. Got a good head on your shoulders, don't lose that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions/philosopies what have you. I used to work at a bowling alley way back in the day and there was this WW2 vet who actually wrote and published a book explaining his theory on humans and evolution. I read it and it had some interesting points regarding pyramids, unexplained phenomina etc. I'll have to try and find it, he was a great guy, Alfred, was part of the Polish Nazi group and still held fast to his beliefs (scary, and I didn't agree with any of it, but admirable)

Personally, I don't follow any sort of particular religion. I find aspects of each and sort of go with what works for me. I had alot of bad experiences when I was little, and, I'm not affraid to admit it, I believe in ghosts (but that's a whole other thread, interesting story though). But I've also died. I was dead for about a minute on the operating table when I was 10. Because of that, I don't live in the "future", I don't worry about what might happen in 2012. I live for today, cheesy I know, but that's the truth. Ask anyone who knows me. I live hard, party hard (hahaha), love hard and am brutally honest. No regrets about anything.


And done. LOL

[karazy]

thnx randi :)

i believe in ghosts most of the time, but try not too as there's some loop holes.

i basically have no religion too. im in catholic school, but i don't listen to any of that stuff they tell us. it's too outrageous.
im more for the darwin theory and atheism :P

i think its great that you live every day like its your last. look at how you ended up...you ended up with a friggen shark pool! :biggrin:

[RuGlu6]

you're very mature for your age, Karazy. Got a good head on your shoulders, don't lose that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions/philosopies what have you. I used to work at a bowling alley way back in the day and there was this WW2 vet who actually wrote and published a book explaining his theory on humans and evolution. I read it and it had some interesting points regarding pyramids, unexplained phenomina etc. I'll have to try and find it, he was a great guy, Alfred, was part of the Polish Nazi group and still held fast to his beliefs (scary, and I didn't agree with any of it, but admirable)

Personally, I don't follow any sort of particular religion. I find aspects of each and sort of go with what works for me. I had alot of bad experiences when I was little, and, I'm not affraid to admit it, I believe in ghosts (but that's a whole other thread, interesting story though). But I've also died. I was dead for about a minute on the operating table when I was 10. Because of that, I don't live in the "future", I don't worry about what might happen in 2012. I live for today, cheesy I know, but that's the truth. Ask anyone who knows me. I live hard, party hard (hahaha), love hard and am brutally honest. No regrets about anything.


And done. LOL
I am always wondering what people who died see on the other side? or is it nothing just void? I think time does not exist on the other side and one minute means nothing it could be a minute here but a long time there...
herd many stories but still fascinated by this phenomenon.
One thing for sure is true for all who died that this will change the person in many ways!
thank you so much for sharing that !

[Rbacchiega]

I didn't see/feel/experience anything. But I was in a coma for a week afterwards. Pretty scary.
But I agree with you

[my2rotties]

When my soul mate Diva the rottie died in my arms of cancer. The last thing I asked her to do for me is tell me she made it out okay... (this is so hard to talk about still)

The vet did a house call to end her suffering that day and we took her to Pet Heaven for cremation. I stopped at the florist for flowers to put with her and they were very tightly closed. The crematory was very dark and cold and we wrapped Diva in a blanket and put the flowers between her front legs. The tulips suddenly bust open into full bloom. They just opened quickly and stayed that way. I never felt or saw anything beyond that day just over two years ago, but it must have been her making my last request happen.

The funeral director said he had been in this business for people and animals for over thirty years and he said if that was not a sign he didn't know what was. I am not religious or have a belief system of any kind. However that dog was a gift to me from a greater power. I have had dogs all my life and she was truly special and everyone that knew her knew she was different.

It is in our nature to want things to never really end. Of course I do not want the ones I love to die and there to be nothing beyond that. However, this last gift from my soul mate was enough to make me wonder.

When my first Rottie Sheena died, a few months after her passing I was sitting outside at the pond crying with Diva. A little ember came floating in front of my face, when I batted at it, it expanded into a huge ball of white blue light and made a humming noise. It scared me because I thought it was a firefly (hate bugs) and ran away. After that I thought about it and asked everyone I could if we had fireflies and how big they got and what colour the light they made was... we have no fireflies and there is no explanation for what I saw that day as well.

I am a very stable and reasonable person and am not at all crazy. However these two things make me think a lot about what happens after we die. I don't know about heaven or souls or energy... I just know what I saw those two times and hope they were indeed signs. Some people say if it was not a sign they don;t know what it would be, but perhaps it was nothing and I am hoping it was something...

Now I'm in tears but I felt I had to say what I experienced myself and I know I am not crazy.

[Buccaneer]

So this is a bit freaky :biggrin:

I read this post last night and thought ... here we go again y2k yadda yadda etc etc

Then I open one of my hotmail accounts today that I rarely use but some of my cousins still send me stuff to and I open the contents of the email listed below that was sent to me on Jan 12th ( I only saw it today )


Lucia reveals the 3rd secret of Fatima

The Church has given permission to reveal to the people the last part of the message. The Blessed Virgin appeared to three children in Fatima , Portugal , in 1917, this is a proven fact; one of these children is still
alive, her name is Lucia, she is a cloistered nun and lives in a monastery in Portugal .
Lucia disclosed the message for the first time to Pope Pius XII whom, after reading it, he sealed it and stored away without making it public. Later Pope John XXIII read it and, in the same manner as his predecessor, he kept it out of the public eye because he knew that once revealed; it will bring desperation and panic to human kind. Now the time has come, and permission has been granted from Pope John Paul II to reveal it to the children of God, in order not to create panic but to make> people aware of this important message so everybody can be prepared. The Virgin told Lucia: 'Go my child and tell the world; what will come to pass during the 1950's - 2000's. Men are not practicing the
Commandments that our Father has given us. Evil is governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world in minutes, half of the human race will be destroyed, the war will begin against Rome , and there will be conflicts amongst religious orders. God will allow all natural phenomenon's like
smoke, hail, cold, water, fire, floods, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather to slowly batter the planet. These things will come to pass before the year 2010. 'Those who won't believe, this is the time,' your beloved mother told you, 'those lacking charity towards others and those who do not love thy neighbor like my beloved Son has loved you, all, cannot survive. They will wish to have died, millions are unimaginable, they will come, and there is no doubt our Lord God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who despise him and those who did not have time for him I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ, God helps the world but all of those who do not show fidelity and loyalty will be destroyed' Father Agustin, who lives in Fatima, said that Pope Paul VI gave him permission to visit sister Lucia who is a cloistered nun (she does not leave the monastery nor is allowed to receive any visitors). Father Augustin said
that she received him greatly overwhelmed and told him: 'Father, our lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight to their destruction, believe me father, the punishment will come very soon.' Many souls will be lost; many nations will disappear from the earth. But, in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice good deeds, the world can be saved. One of all these, if men persist with its evil, the world will be lost forever. The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to their families, friends, and to the entire world. Start praying, to make penitence and sacrifices. We are at the last minute of the last day and the catastrophes are near. Due to this, many that were far from the church will return to the open arms of the Church of Jesus Christ . The
joining of the churches will result in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church ; England , Russia , China , Jews, Muslims and Protestants. All will return believing and worshiping God our creator, in his beloved Son and in our Blessed Mother Virgin Mary'. WHAT AWAITS US??? Every where there will be 'Peace Talks', but punishment will come.
A MAN IN A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL PROVOKE THE WAR. A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPEAN THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL COMMENCE.
This war will destroy everything, darkness will fall over us for 72 hours (three days) and the one third of humanity that survives this obscurity and sacrifice, will commence to live a new era, they will be good people. In a very cold night, 10 minutes before midnight , A GREAT QUAKE will shake the earth for 8 hours. This will be the third signal that God is who governs the earth. The righteous and those who propagate the faith and the message of the Lady of Fatima SHOULD NOT FEAR, DO NOT BE AFRAID. WHATTO DO???
Bow your heads, kneel down and ask God for forgiveness because, only what is good and is not under the power of evil will survive the catastrophe. In order for you to prepare and remain alive I will give you the following signs: ANGUISH........ AND IN A SHORT PERIOD THE EARTH QUAKE WILL COMMENCE... THE EARTH WILL SHAKE....The shake will be so violent that will move the earth 23 degrees and it will return it to its normal position. Then, total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet... All evil spirits will be mingling around and free, doing harm to all those souls that did not want to listen to this message and those who did not want to repent. To the faithful souls, remember to light the blessed candles, prepare a sacred altar with a crucifix in order to communicate with GOD and implore for His infinite mercy.... All will be dark; IN THE SKY A GREAT MYSTIC CROSS will appear to remind us
the price that his beloved Son had to pay for our redemption...In the house the only thing that can give light will be the HOLY CANDLES... Once lit, nothing will put them off until the three days of darkness are over. Also, you should have Holy water that should be sprinkled abundantly on windows and doors. The Lord will protect the property of the chosen ones.. Kneel down before the powerful cross of my beloved Son, pray the Rosary and after each Hail Mary you must pray the following: 'Oh God forgive us our sins, preserve us from the fire of hell, take all souls to heaven, specially those who are in more need of they mercy. Blessed Virgin Mary protect us, we love you, save us and save the world'. Pray 5 Creeds and Rosary which is the secret to my Immaculate Heart. All those who believe in my words go and take the message to everyone.
DO NOT FEAR. FEAR NOTHING DURING THE LORD'S GREAT DAY.
Talk to all the souls. now that there is time, those who keep quiet will be responsible for all those souls who will perish in ignorance.
All those who pray humbly the rosary will have the protection of heaven and those who are bound to die I will help them die in peace and they will be holy when they enter the other world. I wish all my children to attend mass every first Friday and every first Saturday of each month, to confess and receive Holy Communion and in doing so, save the world from its TOTAL DESTRUCTION.WHEN the earth shakes no more, those who still not believe in our Lord will perish in a horrible way. The wind will bring gas and it will disperse it everywhere, then the sun will rise. Maybe
you will survive this catastrophe. Do not forget that God's punishment is holy and ONCE IT HAS STARTED YOU SHOULD NOT LOOK OUTSIDE, UNDER NO
CIRCUMSTANCE, GOD DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HIS CHILDREN TO SEE WHEN HE PUNISHES THE SINNERS.... All this encompasses with the writings of the Holy Scriptures..
Read on the New Testament: Luke: 21 - 5:121, 12:19 , 20:20 , 29:33 Letters
of St Paul 3 - 8 - 14 Isaiah 40, 1:5:9. You must understand that God allows all this to happen. The Pope and Bishops are now awaiting another message that speaks about repentance and prayer. Remember that Gods words are not a threat, but good news...Please reproduce these pages and send them to all you know so we all can have the opportunity to repent and be saved. We do not know if those receiving this message believe or not in GOD, but think that if you are receiving this message is for a reason!! Maybe the Creator is giving us the chance to be saved, no matter what
religion or creed. If you don't believe in this message at least send it to others, it costs you nothing. To all those receiving it, they can have the opportunity to judge for themselves. Remember, we can avoid a great deal if we practice the Commandments that our Father God left us. There are 10 simple things, that if we all put in practice we can obtain God's pardon.
*LAST SECRET OF FATIMA *
world....
in good terms with GOD, though we never know when we will be leaving this
Independently of any Creed or Religion, is better to be prepared and be
LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA *

[Rbacchiega]

Funny how nearly every religion will say that those who practice a different religion will see the error of their ways and turn to Christianity, Muslim, Buddhist what have you..

[my2rotties]

I always lose interest quickly when religion comes up in conversations such as these...I will shut up now, or I will get myself in a bit of hoopla...

Funny how nearly every religion will say that those who practice a different religion will see the error of their ways and turn to Christianity, Muslim, Buddhist what have you..

[Rbacchiega]

I know what you mean. Religion and Politics sheesh LOL

so, about that 2012...

[bigmac]

Here's my take (for what it's worth):

1) Those who want to spend the rest of their days (how much or little they have left) worrying and fretting about the unknown (which in my opinion creates stress and will shorten their lives anyways, go figure) can do so. However, stop trying to whip everyone who comes within earshot into a frenzy (this applies to religious zealots as well). Trying to impose ideas of what is right for others or casting/cleansing them out because they don't think like you has caused every war and inhumanity to man/woman to date.

2) I, for one, will try to enjoy every day that I wake up breathing and take pride in teaching my children to be honest, happy and well adjusted individuals that don't succumb to the ridiculousness of living in fear (which is the basis for most religions and doomsday fanatics). Think about it for a second; if in 2012 the world does happen to end is the feeling of "aha, I was right all along and everyone who doubted me can kiss my a**" going to be more satisfying than the feeling of not having to worry about things you have no control over and spending your days having fun? Hey Einstein, you'll only have a millisecond to gloat; then what?

3) I understand and fully expect my overly simplistic message to anger said doomsdayers/religious fanatics. This will only prove my point further.

[Rbacchiega]

Actually, GREAT points Bigmac...even if I am a quarterpounder with Cheese Person...

[trilinearmipmap]

No species lasts forever. None of the species which were around a few million years ago are still around today. Whether it's global warming, an asteroid, a mega-volcano, a pathogen, nuclear war, another ice ago, or something else, we will be wiped out one day, and other species will evolve to exploit the new environmental conditions. Life would be stagnant if it didn't work that way.

[Buccaneer]

Dont lose perspective here ... talking about something is not the same as fretting about something ( unless you start digging bunkers and stuff like that :biggrin: )

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Here's my take (for what it's worth):

1) Those who want to spend the rest of their days (how much or little they have left) worrying and fretting about the unknown (which in my opinion creates stress and will shorten their lives anyways, go figure) can do so. However, stop trying to whip everyone who comes within earshot into a frenzy (this applies to religious zealots as well). Trying to impose ideas of what is right for others or casting/cleansing them out because they don't think like you has caused every war and inhumanity to man/woman to date.

2) I, for one, will try to enjoy every day that I wake up breathing and take pride in teaching my children to be honest, happy and well adjusted individuals that don't succumb to the ridiculousness of living in fear (which is the basis for most religions and doomsday fanatics). Think about it for a second; if in 2012 the world does happen to end is the feeling of "aha, I was right all along and everyone who doubted me can kiss my a**" going to be more satisfying than the feeling of not having to worry about things you have no control over and spending your days having fun? Hey Einstein, you'll only have a millisecond to gloat; then what?

3) I understand and fully expect my overly simplistic message to anger said doomsdayers/religious fanatics. This will only prove my point further.

I stayed out of this thread for so long because I didn't want to offend anyone but you have just said EXACTLY what I was wanting to say. I find all this stuff quite interesting but what does it change--Nothing! Something that COULD happen one day and is out of my control doesn't effect or change my life one bit.

[Diana]

No species lasts forever. None of the species which were around a few million years ago are still around today.


*shudder* Cyanobacteria. *shudder*

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Because of that, I don't live in the "future", I don't worry about what might happen in 2012. I live for today, cheesy I know, but that's the truth. Ask anyone who knows me. I live hard, party hard (hahaha), love hard and am brutally honest. No regrets about anything.


And done. LOL

I hear you completely one this one...

I don't talk about it much (never comes up) but I will most likely not live a long normal life and have known that since I was a kid. I was diagnosed with cancer at 3 and have had it come and go all my life. Ha...I wasn't even suppose to make it this long originally. That has kind of forced me to live for each day. I honestly don't know any different. So for me I guess hearing the end of the world could be 2012, well...its just the same thing. Someone with my disease CAN'T live for the future. It may never come ;)

Weird to talk about this cause there is only maybe one or two people on here that know this about me.

:Banane21: (Been wanting to use this one :biggrin: )

[Rbacchiega]

*shudder* Cyanobacteria. *shudder*

There's a book called "the Judas Strain". It's actually a very good book. Takes a chapter or two to get hooked, but I proceeded to read it in two days on the beach in Mexico last year. The catch...it talks about Cyano...

[Rbacchiega]

Wow Justin, that's incredible. I've got a hole in my heart. And currently it's getting bigger, so I've been going under a myriad of tests the last few weeks (that's why I've been on here for so long during a day, after a test I'm drained and can't physically do anything else)

I hope you stay well.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Wow Justin, that's incredible. I've got a hole in my heart. And currently it's getting bigger, so I've been going under a myriad of tests the last few weeks (that's why I've been on here for so long during a day, after a test I'm drained and can't physically do anything else)

I hope you stay well.

Im fine. Its nothing new to me :) I think growing up with a disease is much easier than getting it at an older age after being healthy for years. It is devastating for people to "loose" their health. I have just always known that "any month now" things could go downhill...so I never really put things off too much if its something I really want to do. I had already hit every continent besides Antarctica by age 19 as that was something I wanted to do since I was a kid.

Hope you stay well too man. I find positive thinking goes a LONG way in keeping people strong.

[Doug]

I know what you mean. Religion and Politics sheesh LOL

so, about that 2012...


Not to mention it will get this thread closed quicker than it will take the world to end. :rofl:

[Doug]

Im fine. Its nothing new to me :) I think growing up with a disease is much easier than getting it at an older age after being healthy for years. It is devastating for people to "loose" their health. I have just always known that "any month now" things could go downhill...so I never really put things off too much if its something I really want to do. I had already hit every continent besides Antarctica by age 19 as that was something I wanted to do since I was a kid.

Hope you stay well too man. I find positive thinking goes a LONG way in keeping people strong.


When you hear testimonials like these, it puts everything else in perspective. And as I have been around for some period of time now, I know many similar people.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

When you hear testimonials like these, it puts everything else in perspective. And as I have been around for some period of time now, I know many similar people.

Thats what people I know tell me ;)

Like I said, I don't know any different, so for me, if I want to do something I have to do it while my health is good. Its been soooo up and down over the years. During treatment, I can't do much at all. Thats actually how I got into fish. But times like now, when I feel good, I have to go all out!

Certainly does put your life in perspective--everytime I get through treatment and am told things are good, it really changes things. I am working with my father now to help pay for me to get over to Africa (Kenya) in 2010 to join a program building homes for kids with AIDS. There always seems to be someone who is in need more than you huh...

[trilinearmipmap]

*shudder* Cyanobacteria. *shudder*

OK you proved me wrong. Ironic that the species that has outlived all the others is growing in the aquarium 10 feet away from me.

[Diana]

Haha yeah when people come into the store scratching their heads with cyanobacteria problems all I can say is "well, its one of the most primitive organisms on earth... its going to be hard to kill". ;)

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Haha yeah when people come into the store scratching their heads with cyanobacteria problems all I can say is "well, its one of the most primitive organisms on earth... its going to be hard to kill". ;)

Eh...Im not scared of Cyano anymore...Coral snow works wonders ;)

EDIT: Oooo...maybe Cyano will end mankind! It will adapt to live out of water and cover EVERYTHING...

We would need a LOT of coral snow to try to deal with that mess!

[PoonTang]

Eh...Im not scared of Cyano anymore...Coral snow works wonders ;)

EDIT: Oooo...maybe Cyano will end mankind! It will adapt to live out of water and cover EVERYTHING...

We would need a LOT of coral snow to try to deal with that mess!

Coral snow kills cyano?

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Coral snow kills cyano?

Well in combination with upping the dosage of ZEObak it does. I don't think it really would do much on its own...I know people have tried but I have heard it really doesn't work so well in a non ZEO system.

[Pan]

Coral snow kills cyano?
Zeozyme does, if you don't use the zeo system i'd use it instead of coral snow. Coral snow is sort of meant to be mixed with other products when dosed. Zeozyme is pricy though.

[68shelby]

Actually the mayans do not predict the end of the world, they predict the end of a cycle and the beginning of a new one. you can interpret it anyway you want.

[68shelby]

And yes there is already a movie in the works coming out on it.