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psuedo
05-16-2003, 01:45 AM
If anybody has a 60 gallon aquarium out there I would like to buy. The closer the better. I just put a crack in mine, and am a little scared of getting my feet wet. Also tell me the measurements and how much you would want for it.

psuedo
05-16-2003, 02:25 AM
I could even go up to a 77 gallon, I am not picky now.

EmilyB
05-16-2003, 03:26 AM
:eek: If I were you, I'd be getting your stuff out of that tank pronto...into some rubbermaids with some powerheads and heaters, etc. I can't imagine going to sleep with a cracked tank........

Hope things hold.

psuedo
05-16-2003, 03:54 AM
I just realized that I may be able to put my 115 gallon tank. The only problem with this is that I live in an apartment on the 3rd floor. The floor does not creak with a 60 gallon tank right now, but do I dare take the chance of putting 1400 lbs on the floor, plus the weight of the rock and the stand and canopy.
Dilemma, dilemma

EmilyB
05-16-2003, 03:59 AM
Plus you don't want to set up a glass tank in a rush........ :neutral:

psuedo
05-16-2003, 04:02 AM
Why can't I set it up too fast?
All I do is dump all my sand in then my rock, and then my water from the old tank, slowly putting in new water to not cause too much of a shock. right?? Last step would be to add all the livestock
could be done in a 36 hour period?

EmilyB
05-16-2003, 04:07 AM
If you have 36 hrs.... :eek:

I was thinking about levelling, the weight you mentioned etc.

psuedo
05-16-2003, 04:10 AM
I can put most of the stuff into buckets for the inbetween time. I am just a little stressed right now, and all I need is an opinion on whether you think the floor could handle the weight.

EmilyB
05-16-2003, 04:13 AM
I have no idea. Sorry. :frown: What if you filled it only halfway?

psuedo
05-16-2003, 04:14 AM
then it would look stupid

EmilyB
05-16-2003, 04:15 AM
I just meant for temporary...until you could find out about the floors?? :confused:

MitchM
05-16-2003, 04:24 AM
:lol:
Who cares if the tank looks stupid?.....
It'll be worse if you're standing in a big puddle of water! :smile:

Your floor will be fine.....but do you know what it's made of, and where the walls of the apartment are below you?

Mitch

MitchM
05-16-2003, 04:50 AM
Hmmm, well I guess he signed off of here... :confused:

I also wanted to mention that he should try and place the larger tank over a bearing wall under him in order to reduce bouncing, and try to determine the direction of the floor joists and place the tank perpindicular to them.

Mitch :smile:

psuedo
05-16-2003, 05:30 AM
are floor joists 16 inches apart or are they 24 inches apart?

Aquattro
05-16-2003, 05:45 AM
are floor joists 16 inches apart or are they 24 inches apart?

They'll be 16" centers almost certainly.

psuedo
05-16-2003, 06:12 AM
thankyou. At last I have something I can work with

MitchM
05-16-2003, 12:18 PM
Yep, 16 " in older buildings with standard dimensional lumber, 19.2" in newer ones with engineered joists.

Mitch

StirCrazy
05-16-2003, 01:20 PM
Or there is even the chance that it is a steel or concreat floor depending on how they built the apartment.

Steve

MitchM
05-16-2003, 01:22 PM
Yeah, but he mentioned creaking, so I'm assuming that it's a wood floor.

Mitch

psuedo
05-16-2003, 01:53 PM
yeah, I am pretty sure it is a wooden floor. Now all I have to do is figure out where the joists are, so as I can lay the stand out equally over 4 joists

MitchM
05-16-2003, 02:11 PM
You can sometimes determine that by looking for heating duct runs (if you have them), return air grilles, determining which walls in your place are bearing walls, and if you have hardwood floors, the strips s/b running perpindicular to the joists (but they don't always...). There's a lot of things that you can look for.
Standard residential construction code calls for a 10lb/sq. ft. dead load rating (that's the stuff that the floor is made of) plus a 40lb./sq. ft. live load rating (that's what you put on the floor) (so that's a total of 50lbs/sq. ft.) in the middle of any floor span. - and that's the minumum. We tend to put our tanks close to a wall, and we're able to put higher loads on those areas. I would not put that size of a tank parrallel to the joists, so it's important that you determine which way they're running.
Or you could stick with your 60g tank replacement idea. :smile:

Mitch