90 gal cylinder trying again

[scub steve]

ok this will be the second time I set this tank up and jump back into the salt water game. My coralife super skimmer kept screwing up and drove me to the point of insanity so I switched to freshwater well in short I find freshwater too be boaring compared to salt water so im back.


so for the skimmer i still have the coralife 220 but i cringe everytime i even look at it so im getting a euro reef 135 and hope that it does not make me want to kill someone.
I also have a 250 mh hqi on its way here

my question too you guys is should i go reef or fowlr?? i am trying too load pics off photobucket but i cant seem to get it too work can someone shoot me a pm telling me how

[trilinearmipmap]

My question is how do you clean coralline off the inside of the tank?

[karazy]

i'm pretty sure they make a magfloat like device for biorbs that would work

[baker_jeff]

That is a very cool tank.

[scub steve]

ya im cleaning the sand out right now i pretty much have to get into the tank too reach the bottom.. I just give it a quick brushdown with the old magnet scrubber every second day or so

[JDigital]

That's a cool looking tank.... What are the stocking "rules" for a cylander... You can put a tang in a 90-100G tank (4-5 foot).. but I'm guessing that "rule" kinda goes out the window with a cylinder eh?

Look forward to this tank!

[scub steve]

your guess would be good as mine I dont know I have never put anything really big in there im interested to hear other people opinions on this

[xtreme]

Just curious, what is the diameter?

[scub steve]

ok i cant seem to find my tape measure ill try too post the info when i can find it

[scub steve]

some of the equipment i could use even though ill probably go on to newer stuff and this will be put back in the basement lol

[scub steve]

the tank is 31 tall and 30 around

[Telford]

That's a cool looking tank.... What are the stocking "rules" for a cylander... You can put a tang in a 90-100G tank (4-5 foot).. but I'm guessing that "rule" kinda goes out the window with a cylinder eh?

Look forward to this tank!

I have a 80g cylinder tank. The dimensions on mine are 28" diameter and 28" tall. I have tangs in mine. In a way it might be better than a standard tank because they can swim around and around in circles and never have to turn around!! :biggrin:

Removing algae from the glass is a bit of a pain in the *ss. You have to keep up with it. If you get lazy and leave it a few days+ then you're in there up to your armpit with a scrubber.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/TelfordHenry/fish1.jpg

[tang daddy]

looks good ^

I like your 90 g cylinder and could picture it set up pretty nice with corals going 360 deg. kinda like a christmas tree structure, I say go reef for sure and maybe use acrilic rods and putty to build a structure around the overflow also you could drill holes in the lr before putting in so that when you buy corals on plugs or lr you can stick them in the holes works great for me!!

[trilinearmipmap]

Removing algae from the glass is a bit of a pain in the *ss. You have to keep up with it. If you get lazy and leave it a few days+ then you're in there up to your armpit with a scrubber.

I wonder if you could mod a hammerhead algae magnet to have a curvature to match the curvature of the cylinder tank.

[Telford]

I wonder if you could mod a hammerhead algae magnet to have a curvature to match the curvature of the cylinder tank.

I use a regular hammerhead currently. It undoubtedly doesn't work as well as it would on a flat surface but the curvature isn't so tight that it prevents it from doing the trick.

[Marlin65]

Nice tank you could take a piece of UHMW and shape it then bond the magnets that would give you what you need to take care of the algae.

[scub steve]

i just have a regular magnet and it works good for me but this tank is a real pain if you do have to get too the bottom its really deep

[scub steve]

I use a regular hammerhead currently. It undoubtedly doesn't work as well as it would on a flat surface but the curvature isn't so tight that it prevents it from doing the trick.

is your tank acrylic or is it glass?? mine is glass so im not too worried about scratching it

[Telford]

is your tank acrylic or is it glass?? mine is glass so im not too worried about scratching it

Acrylic. Scratching is definitely an issue, especially close to the sand bottom.

[mike31154]

i just have a regular magnet and it works good for me but this tank is a real pain if you do have to get too the bottom its really deep

I forget the brand name, but I have one of those long handled cleaning kits you find at most any LFS. It comes with various attachments including a metal scraper, sand claw and a scrubbing pad that has a nice curvature and a swivel head. Only downside is I broke the original handle cleaning my skimmer body. Seems the handle is made of a thin metal tube sealed in plastic. A little too much pressure sideways and 'kink' that was it. I was set to chuck the thing in the trash but was hesitant since I found the attachment so useful. The kits aren't that costly, but I didn't want to buy another since the handle is so crappy. Anyhow, I decided to repair it by cutting off the broken handle and replacing it with wood. Bought a nice long piece of dowel at the home improvement store and epoxied it into the hole I cleaned out on the plastic piece which accepts the cleaning attachments. Made the handle longer than the original, a coat of varnish, now I have a real fancy long handled cleaning thingy...

Anyhow, the curved cleaning pad may be useful to you if you're willing to chance the handle breakage issue. I'm thinking the ones with the longer handles would be worse since the diameter is the same as the shorter ones and it would take less force to kink them if you're trying to scrub a little harder.

[scub steve]

after i seen telfords tank I have decided to paint my stand black im just wondering what kind or paint i can use to paint my overflowand stand ? oh and my lights showed up today skimmer should be here wed

[StirCrazy]

You can put a tang in a 90-100G tank (4-5 foot)..



that size whent out the window also.. where did you ever get that you need a 4 or 5 foot tank for a tang?

I had a yellow in my 3 foot tank and it was fine. If you look it up the min size for an adult yellow is 45 gal. every tang has different requirments, I did have a yellow and a sailfin in my 90 gal (3 foot long) and sold the sailfin as I found it was a little small for both, but it was fine for the yellow, was over 6 years old when I took down the tank and gave him to the LFS. might still be alive in some one elses tank for all I know.

Steve

Steve

[saltynuts]

prime the stand! it will help in the long run

[JDigital]

that size whent out the window also.. where did you ever get that you need a 4 or 5 foot tank for a tang?

I had a yellow in my 3 foot tank and it was fine. If you look it up the min size for an adult yellow is 45 gal. every tang has different requirments, I did have a yellow and a sailfin in my 90 gal (3 foot long) and sold the sailfin as I found it was a little small for both, but it was fine for the yellow, was over 6 years old when I took down the tank and gave him to the LFS. might still be alive in some one elses tank for all I know.

Steve

Steve

No need to jump down my throat man.... It's the general rule of thumb for the average tang.

[StirCrazy]

No need to jump down my throat man.... It's the general rule of thumb for the average tang.

not jumping down your throat, we go through this every couple years, where the size of a tank for a tang gets over inflated. the general rule of thumb is the average you see in books, which is 40 gal for most tangs. I personally don't think this is enough for a mature tang, but lots have had success with it for a long time.

there was discussion on the board about 5 years ago on how long the tank should be but this also was a mute point as if you have a tone of flow it can make the same effect as a longer tank.

the only thing I wanted to do here is stop an over inflated rule of thumb before it gets over inflated again and we'll have people telling us you need a 150 for a tang.

Steve

[JDigital]

the general rule of thumb is the average you see in books, which is 40 gal for most tangs.

I don't know what books your reading.. :drinking:

Either way, this convo doesn't below in this persons tank thread.

[scub steve]

hopefully i can figure out posting pics so i can show everyone my progress

[scub steve]

still testing ill get this beat yet

[scub steve]

ok going nuts going too throw the computer im pasting the links from photo bucket but im not getting any pics showing up someone help before i drownd myself in my aquarium

[Rbacchiega]

after you've loaded to photobucket you there should be a list of different options under each picture...one will say something like [IMG] ...copy that and just paste it into the reply box

[scub steve]

The euro reef 135
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/011.jpg

this is the overflow with the return running threw it
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/009.jpg

this is the complete overflow its a monster lol but its quiet
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/036.jpg

half full woop woop
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/038.jpg

full
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/039.jpg

[Rbacchiega]

ta da!

[Pan]

I've seen silicone wiper blades mounted to a rod and used for cleaning cylinder tanks.

[scub steve]

ta da!

thank you i was just getting my shorts on and ready to jump into the tank

[scub steve]

I have tons of these were pretty sure there elephant ear mushrooms there all going too find new homes as im thinking of going sps and ricordia
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/034.jpg

We had to break this up cause it would not fit in the bucket
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/033.jpg

There is like 12 heads of ricorida my favorite coral I hope they make it
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/032.jpg

there are purple tips on some of this hope it will be my first sps too make it
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/035.jpg

[scub steve]

ok in the first pic with the big mushroom what are those little polyps just above it there every were on the rock im sure there a pest

[saltynuts]

look at you go all grown up and taken pics! lol

[scub steve]

Well after a few hours of running I was getting tons of micro bubbles so I drained the sump and am putting in another baffel and going too put the sump on styrafoam to try and eleminate more noise

[scub steve]

ok I got the micro bubbles all taken care of getting the diatom stage right now i hope my corals make it threw but im not optomistic.
my plate coral
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/coral3.jpg
my frogger
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/coral5.jpg
sps turning blue on the tips but white everywere else so I think its dieying
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/coral1.jpg

[scub steve]

no comments or anything well thats no fun ill bet if i said i was going too put 6 tangs in there you guys would say something.... im not going too but at leased i would get some posts lol

[hershey]

6 tangs are you crazy

[scub steve]

thank you it about time someone said something lol

[kipsix]

no comments or anything well thats no fun ill bet if i said i was going too put 6 tangs in there you guys would say something.... im not going too but at leased i would get some posts lol

Well I'll say it looks good. :biggrin:

I think the pest you were referring to is mojano? (maybe?)

[scub steve]

ya the rock is coverd with pests im in for a battle im sure it has cyano aptasia etc etc

[chevyjaxon]

just starting to follow this thread i need to know where the heck do you get a 90 gallon cylinder tank from anyhow?? now i want one:twised:

[Floop70]

Yeah, that cylinder looks pretty cool. I'll tag along on this thread.

[digital-audiophile]

just starting to follow this thread i need to know where the heck do you get a 90 gallon cylinder tank from anyhow?? now i want one:twised:


That makes two of us.

[scub steve]

sweet and aqua giant is were the tank is from you would not belive the way it was plumed before i got it im going too try and find pics.. it used too come off the overflow down too an elbow too a spray bar that was a foot from the sump it sounded like a waterfall lol

[scub steve]

just starting to follow this thread i need to know where the heck do you get a 90 gallon cylinder tank from anyhow?? now i want one:twised:

you find me a 90 gal or bigger bowfront and ill trade ya lol

some more pics for you guys I hooked up my ro unit its going too do top offs and my water changes
the ro unit itself got it for 50 buck
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/rounit.jpg

the rubbermade and float that the ro unit feeds
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/float.jpg

The saddle valve that I used too tap into my water supply. Probably the scaryist moment in this house i was afraid it was going too **** water everywere http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/saddlevalve.jpg

oh and the tds meter reading 140 in i dont know if thats bad anybody want too let me know?http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/tds140.jpg

[BlueAbyss]

140 isn't too bad for most of Alberta, I've heard of much higher in Calgary.

[untamed]

the rubbermade and float that the ro unit feeds
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/float.jpg



This picture frightens me. The way that you have that float valve mounted on that tank just doesn't look secure to me. If the float valve were to float upward and rotate or flip, you would just keep feeding water until something bad happened. I think you would be better off just bulkheading that float switch directly into the tank wall.

[scub steve]

there is weight in that basket thing too keep it from doing that i agree with you though if i had room in the sump it would be in there but i had to squish the maxi jet in there for the phos ban reactor and that was the last of the room in there

[scub steve]

after tons of reading i hate too say it but i have lots of majano in my tank it sounds like the only way too really get rid of them is too tear the tank down and cook the live rock. There are too many too just pick them off the rock so thats out of the question anyone have any ideas?

[scub steve]

just a little update i have tons of algae in my tank so im in dire need of a cleanup crew and i like adding pics now that i know how lol


my rics that i will probably just give too my brother seeing i want too go sps
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/rics.jpg


I changed my auto topoff a bit I added a powerhead too pump too the tank and changed the float
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/newautotopoff.jpg

and this excites me the most one of my only sps is turning blue it was an ugly brown i dont know if the pic is very good but trust me its turning blue
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w138/cougarhunter/blue.jpg

[Skimmerking]

hey man i wish i had 140 for TDS reading. mine in Brandon, Manitoba is 800

[scub steve]

hey man i wish i had 140 for TDS reading. mine in Brandon, Manitoba is 800

what holy crap ok i feel better

[Parker]

I love these cylinder tanks, I think they are very cool!

[iansfishy]

I have a 80g cylinder tank. The dimensions on mine are 28" diameter and 28" tall. I have tangs in mine. In a way it might be better than a standard tank because they can swim around and around in circles and never have to turn around!! :biggrin:

Removing algae from the glass is a bit of a pain in the *ss. You have to keep up with it. If you get lazy and leave it a few days+ then you're in there up to your armpit with a scrubber.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/TelfordHenry/fish1.jpg

Can you fill me in on how all your lights and pumps etc are plugged in! Thats a great looking tank. i've been wanting to put my tank in the middle of the room but am still working on hiding all the cords.

[scub steve]

thats telfords tank and i would be interested in that info as well

[BlueAbyss]

That tank has a center overflow, I'll bet they are plugged into power bars underneath the tank and run off of one cord.

[scub steve]

ha ha thats awsome i never though of that although it kinda scares me running power threw the overflow

[BlueAbyss]

LOL all submersible equipment and cords scares me. :lol: I was soooo scared when I got my first submersible heater years ago.

I just thought about it and theres a chance that there's a plug-in on the floor below the tank, I'd be worried about running a long extension cord across the room to power the tank myself.

[iansfishy]

LOL all submersible equipment and cords scares me. :lol: I was soooo scared when I got my first submersible heater years ago.

I just thought about it and theres a chance that there's a plug-in on the floor below the tank, I'd be worried about running a long extension cord across the room to power the tank myself.

Thats what I assumed, but there is still the outlet on the floor, under 80 gallons of water issue! Maybe through a hole in the floor then plugged somewhere higher! huh huh!