Contest Rules and Guidelines Thread.

[JDigital]

Current contestants are:

5.5G:

scholar: Dropped out.

Chaloupa:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45542

AndyL: Dropped out.

10G:

JDigital: Dropped Out

rocketlily:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45294

ElGuappo:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45219

Stab_Master_Arson: Dropped out.

Der_Iron_Chef: Dropped out.

Scythanith:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45676

sphelps:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45285

noirsphynx:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45566

Ryan_Lap: Disqualified (Did not post mandatory updates)

superduperwesman:
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46197



I will continue to update this list as new people join.


PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CLOSELY

2008 Nano Contest

2 categories
-5.5g AGA
-10g AGA

Prizes awarded for:

- Best Tank
- Most innovative

Sponsored Prize:

- Best Theme (Donated by Red Coral Aquarium)

http://www.canreef.com/images/ads/redcoralaquarium.jpg


RULES:

Spending limits:
- 5.5g AGA= $250 CDN
- 10g AGA= $300 CDN

Not covered in budget (i.e. considered "free")

- Contest Display Tank
- Building supplies (eggcrate, stand/canopy materials, plumbing, acrylic/glass scraps, etc)
- Sand
- Live Rock
- Water and salt
- Food
- Supplements
- Accessories less than $15 (mag floats, tongs, thermometers, etc)


GENERAL GUIDELINES & RULES:

- All used equipment utilized in contest will be deducted from your budget at 75% of the lowest advertised price from J&L Aquatics.
For equipment purchased online, only deduct the actual price of the equipment from the budget, don't deduct shipping costs.

- All live stock can come from anywhere, CR Vendors, LFS, online, whatever. If you use something from a current tank, you deduct it's fair market value.
If you purchase livestock online, you deduct the actual price paid for the livestock from the budget, but don't count shipping costs.

- Tank can be purchased locally and will not count against budget. (Sump tank will count against your budget, should you choose to incorporate one)

- You can mod your tank as much as you want, as long as you start with a STOCK tank and deduct costs from your budget.

- Budget is done on the honor system since we all know what its all worth (for most things).

- There is an entry fee of $20.00, which must be received by 10/15 to lock you into the contest. These fees will be used for the prizes at the end of the contest. Entry fees are non-refundable after 10/15.

- Contest begins Oct 15, 2008 and ends April 15, 2009.

In short, you've got 6 months to make a sweet tank on a limited budget. Lighting fixtures, filters, skimmers, and livestock all count towards budget, so manage wisely.


- Start a tank thread for your contest tank by Oct 15, so we can see it's progression as it goes along. It wouldn't hurt to put a link to your contest tank thread in your sig, but I don't know that we should require it. You don't have to start your tank thread immediately, as long as you do it by Oct 15.

- On the 15th of every month, post a FTS of your tank on your thread.

- When we reach the end of the contest, Myself (or Christy) will start a thread showing all of the tanks and their specs, with an attached poll for ALL of Canreef to vote on the winners.

- The winners will receive a gift certificate to the Canreef sponsor/vendor of their choice, taken from the entry fees.

- Basically, we'll take all the $$ contributed for the entry fee and divide it up into 3 equal portions for the winning gift certificates.



michika and I will be running the contest, so if you have any questions or concerns that cannot be addressed on this thread, PM one of us.

On a final note, the goal of this contest is to HAVE FUN and just see how many CREATIVE IDEAS we can all come up with and inspire each other with.

I've done the best I can to alter this contest for fit into our forum here on Canreef, but the fact is that not everyone will be happy with the contest rules as they've been established. If you don't think that you can participate under the established guidelines, then your time and $$ is probably best spent on a tank that you truly will enjoy and keep in the long run.
We want to keep this a positive and enjoyable experience for everyone, so...


ADDENDUM A:
Calculating "cost" for livestock/coral that was free (fragged from an existing tank, etc), received in trade, or purchased at wholesale prices, etc.
-Items received free-- an amount will be deducted from your budget equivalent to what that livestock/coral would commonly be sold for in Livestock Classified Forum of Canreef.com or J&L Aquatics if it can not be found in the Buy/Sell Section. If you can not determine a "fair market value" please PM michika or JDigital a pic, along with common name, and we will do our best to give you a "price".
If you don't feel this is satisfactory, you would probably be better off not competing in this contest. :)
-Items received in trade - Same as above.
-Items purchased at wholesale prices - Same as above.
-Items on which you scored a "good deal"- If you can provide proof of the price you got, cost will be figured at the actual price you paid. If it was a transaction with a private individual, have them hand-write you a receipt, scan it, and post it on your thread.


Addendum A.1

If you purchase something at a steal of a deal from a Canreef.com vendors you do not have to deal with 'fair market value' etc. Example: Sponsor X regularly has 50% off or buy one get one specials that are available to Canreef.com members, so if you pay $10 and get 2 pieces that normally would cost $20, you only pay the $10. This is in hopes that some vendors will want to have specials aimed specifically at this contest.

[ElGuappo]

When you get a moment could you please update the registered list. Seem like theres a few people on te list that have dropped out.

[JDigital]

^^ Updated.

scholar is now competing with a 5.5 in the 10G Category since the other 5.5'ers have either switched to 10 or dropped out.

Cheers.

[scholar]

:mrgreen: guess im going to have to step this tank build up some more

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

What I don't understand though is why the limit for a 5.5G is $250 and the limit for a 10G is $300 if they are now competing against each other in the same category? Should be the same unless they were separate contests.

How does a sump play into things? As for extra water volume? Just curious :)

[JDigital]

What I don't understand though is why the limit for a 5.5G is $250 and the limit for a 10G is $300 if they are now competing against each other in the same category? Should be the same unless they were separate contests.

How does a sump play into things? As for extra water volume? Just curious :)


Well there isn't going to be a 5.5 really anymore, unless I get a bunch of interest from 3-4 people in the next week or so. As for budget, I have discussed a fair medium for scholar.

You can have a sump... just deduct the tank, pump, skimmer etc from the budget. :)

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Sounds great...and thanks for all the work you've put into this. I think we should all remember to HAVE FUN with this. Let's not get our panties in a bunch over this or that perceived unfairness, etc.... :)

[scholar]

sorry if im causeing trouble in the contest. I will keep my 250 budget if every one wants me to really its no trouble

[JDigital]

sorry if im causeing trouble in the contest. I will keep my 250 budget if every one wants me to really its no trouble

Don't worry about it... Just stick to the budget I pm'd you about. :)

[scholar]

k thanks

[JDigital]

Looks like Chaloupa wanted to switch back to the 5.5 Category, which is fine.

[noirsphynx]

I'm in for a 10g :biggrin:

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Oh I know, its all just for fun! I was just curious about why the difference in budget between the two tank sizes if the contest is now between all tanks. I was going to go with 5.5G just to have less space to have to stock because my idea is kind of expensive. But I may as well just do a 10G then :)

[JDigital]

Oh I know, its all just for fun! I was just curious about why the difference in budget between the two tank sizes if the contest is now between all tanks. I was going to go with 5.5G just to have less space to have to stock because my idea is kind of expensive. But I may as well just do a 10G then :)

There are 2 people now doing the 5.5... you would make it 3...

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

OK, well I think Im going to do the 10G but I haven't bought the tank yet, so if the 5.5G contest opens up again I would maybe go for that. I guess I will decide in the next week or so.

[JDigital]

OK, well I think Im going to do the 10G but I haven't bought the tank yet, so if the 5.5G contest opens up again I would maybe go for that. I guess I will decide in the next week or so.

Well 5.5 is back... only take 2 to make a contest.. haha.. so its definitely open.. I was only bumping scholar into the 10 category before as there was no one else doing 5.5s. :)

[don.ald]

is the contest still open to join or closed?

[Ryan_Lap]

- There is an entry fee of $20.00, which must be received by 10/15 to lock you into the contest. These fees will be used for the prizes at the end of the contest. Entry fees are non-refundable after 10/15.

- Contest begins Oct 15, 2008 and ends April 15, 2009.



^

[don.ald]

no late entry fee eh!

[sphelps]

Let him in, what's the difference? Many people in the contest haven't even started yet.

[ElGuappo]

AS long as they are up and running by first pic day and get the fee in asap im ok with it.

[rocketlily]

I agree. There should always be room for one more. Right?

[JDigital]

no late entry fee eh!


You knew about the contest back in sept... there really shouldn't be any reason to need to join late...

If you get your entry fee to me 10pm Monday Oct 20, I'll let it slide.

[superduperwesman]

you should be able to buy into the contest later for more money :)

[JDigital]

you should be able to buy into the contest later for more money :)

They gotta pay for my time too then... keeping track of everyone the first time was enough.. I don't want to be doing it for the next couple months. :)

[superduperwesman]

They gotta pay for my time too then... keeping track of everyone the first time was enough.. I don't want to be doing it for the next couple months. :)

Ok Ok I get it you're afraid of the competition :D ahah

Next time I guess :(

[sphelps]

If Wesman wants in you gotta let him in, just for the pure entertainment :razz:
I say if someone can get water in their tank by Nov 15th and have the entry fee submitted let them in, the more the better.

[superduperwesman]

If Wesman wants in you gotta let him in, just for the pure entertainment :razz:
I say if someone can get water in their tank by Nov 15th and have the entry fee submitted let them in, the more the better.


Yeah I agree with him^ :puppydog:

[Der_Iron_Chef]

If Wesman wants in you gotta let him in, just for the pure entertainment :razz:
I say if someone can get water in their tank by Nov 15th and have the entry fee submitted let them in, the more the better.

Just to play devil's advocate here (because it really doesn't affect me in any way!), would you let people submit photo contest entries well after the closing date? What's the point in having a cut-off? What if someone wanted to join in December?

[sphelps]

Just to play devil's advocate here (because it really doesn't affect me in any way!), would you let people submit photo contest entries well after the closing date? What's the point in having a cut-off? What if someone wanted to join in December?

Well obviously not if voting had already begun, if voting had not already started I would for sure so yes. I would even let people submit after voting had started if I had the power to edit polls which I don't.

I understand the need for cut offs but there are still other members who haven't really setup their tanks yet and since the 15th of Nov is the deadline to have water in the tank I see that date as more of a cut off. Plus who does it really hurt?

[superduperwesman]

What does the photo contest have to do with a tank contest?? ahah. No entry fee... and if you miss out there's another one next month... not a minimum of 6 months later.

But if we are going to use parallels... People love it when you buy back into poker games... a chance for them to win more money when I'm rolling in with half the chips.

The way I see it... I'd be at a disadvantage so I thought others might prefer it... especially if there is a late entry fee :) but no worries if it's gonna cause even more trouble.

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Well, it doesn't have anything to do with the photo contest, except for the parallel it creates. Contests have rules and deadlines, and I guess that's the point. I don't really care either way, to be honest, but I think the fun of the contest has already been compromised to a certain degree, and I'd hate to see yet ANOTHER topic of debate, disagreement, panties-in-a-bunch-edness.

So when DO we draw the line? Can anyone enter at any time? Simply because they bring an entry fee and are at a disadvantage?

What does the photo contest have to do with a tank contest?? ahah. No entry fee... and if you miss out there's another one next month... not a minimum of 6 months later.

But if we are going to use parallels... People love it when you buy back into poker games... a chance for them to win more money when I'm rolling in with half the chips.

The way I see it... I'd be at a disadvantage so I thought others might prefer it... especially if there is a late entry fee :) but no worries if it's gonna cause even more trouble.

[superduperwesman]

Well, it doesn't have anything to do with the photo contest, except for the parallel it creates.

True which is why I made another one... that seemed to be just as valid

Contests have rules and deadlines, and I guess that's the point.

Also true... but being the first contest it seems like some of these rules and deadlines are getting kinks sorted out which is why I thought I would check if the deadline to enter was possible another "kink" that might need changing if requested??

I don't really care either way

Obviously you do

I think the fun of the contest has already been compromised to a certain degree, and I'd hate to see yet ANOTHER topic of debate, disagreement, panties-in-a-bunch-edness.

The contest does look fun which is why I want to enter... and being the first go around I thought some people might understand others being hesitant to enter at first... and possible change the entry date once we had a clear idea of how things would go.

And I do like that amidst all the confusion / debate things seem to be working out, becoming more organized, and people are having fun. The contest is something that looks like it will be very good for everyone on the site... and I guess I was just hoping to get a piece now that I can clearly see that.

My panties are very unbunched :)

So when DO we draw the line? Can anyone enter at any time? Simply because they bring an entry fee and are at a disadvantage?

I guess that is exactly what I was asking... and trying to figure out... if the answer is no then like I already said no it's big deal and I guess I'll miss out, but if yes good :)... and next time we know we have a early entry fee of $20 and a late entry fee of ___

[Der_Iron_Chef]

I don't really care either way, to be honest...

Obviously you do

Miss Cleo? Is that you?

Anyway, I was just trying to play devil's advocate here. It doesn't directly affect me in any real way (unlike the huge amount of PVC cement I spilled on my carpet this weekend).

[superduperwesman]

Miss Cleo? Is that you?

Anyway, I was just trying to play devil's advocate here. It doesn't directly affect me in any real way (unlike the huge amount of PVC cement I spilled on my carpet this weekend).

ahah I love it when that happens... I generally tend to get it on my cloths and the little bit of hair that I do have

[sphelps]

the little bit of hair that I do have
:confused: Are you fantasizing again? Oh.. burn!

I'm just saying since the deadline for water is Nov 15th that's kind of the real deadline here. After that we can't let more people in. Let's keep true to the "it's all for fun" spirit for once and let Wes in, provided he can meet the deadline.

[JDigital]

:confused: Are you fantasizing again? Oh.. burn!

I'm just saying since the deadline for water is Nov 15th that's kind of the real deadline here. After that we can't let more people in. Let's keep true to the "it's all for fun" spirit for once and let Wes in, provided he can meet the deadline.

So I gotta chase entry fees down for another 2 weeks for anyone that wants to enter before Nov 15, just because they weren't sure what to do 2 weeks ago?

None of us knew what to expect, because this is the first one, and yet 12 of us still jumped on board and took the chance. It's pretty easy to say let others in when you don't have to give up some of your personal time organizing monies collection/transfers/cheque cashing...

[superduperwesman]

So I gotta chase entry fees down for another 2 weeks for anyone that wants to enter before Nov 15, just because they weren't sure what to do 2 weeks ago?

None of us knew what to expect, because this is the first one, and yet 12 of us still jumped on board and took the chance. It's pretty easy to say let others in when you don't have to give up some of your personal time organizing monies collection/transfers/cheque cashing...

I have paypal or can send an email money transfer... with a little extra for your time ;) ahah

Come on have a little more confidence in yourself... you should just see it as another $20 in your pocket (or tank) when you win... right? :D

Next time I guess :cry:

My mom said it's just because you're all scared so I'll try to keep the tears to a minimal... I guess in a way it's kinda flattering ahaha

ahah But Seriously...that's cool. I just thought I'd check... but don't want to make work for anyone.

[JDigital]

I have paypal or can send an email money transfer... with a little extra for your time ;) ahah

Come on have a little more confidence in yourself... you should just see it as another $20 in your pocket (or tank) when you win... right? :D

Next time I guess :cry:

My mom said it's just because you're all scared so I'll try to keep the tears to a minimal... I guess in a way it's kinda flattering ahaha

ahah But Seriously...that's cool. I just thought I'd check... but don't want to make work for anyone.


Haha.. I gotta throw up the counter-arguement... It might not seem like it for everyone, but keeping track of everyones payments originally was not enjoyable, and it's not fair if I only let you in the next 2 weeks before the 15th.

I think I'll regret this.............:lol:

If anyone wants to join late, these are the stipulations:

- $20 Entry
- $5 Late Fee
- $1.50 Paypal Fee (if I don't make you cover paypal fees, we will loose more (because of the $5 late fee, pp fees go up more) than we already did in the first batch of contestants, however I do have to thank Ryan Lap for covering the PP fees on his entry:mrgreen:)

$26.50 Total.

- PAYPAL ONLY. (Checks/Money Orders/EMT's take too long to process)
- Do Not miss the Nov 15th Deadline. (ie: Tank must be up and running wet)

[superduperwesman]

Unfortunately you guys might not be the hard ones to convince...now I need to convince the fiance... I'll keep you posted ahah

Kidding... I do what I like... as long as she says it's ok

[sphelps]

Unfortunately you guys might not be the hard ones to convince...now I need to convince the fiance...
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2374_love_struck.gifhttp://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/760_animated_whipping.gif

[Ryan_Lap]

omfg...I just had to read all of that so you could double check with your fiance...........Late entry fee $75 and get your balls from her purse while your at it.:lol:

[sphelps]

haha we're hilarious.

But seriously he's in! Wes you can blame me, which I'm sure you already did.

[superduperwesman]

omfg...I just had to read all of that so you could double check with your fiance...........Late entry fee $75 and get your balls from her purse while your at it.:lol:


ahah yeah she doesn't care... she's good like that :D

Me: "Can I"
Her: "Why are you asking me?"
Me: "uuuuugh... I thought that was how things we're suppose to work now?"

[JDigital]

ahah yeah she doesn't care... she's good like that :D

Me: "Can I"
Her: "Why are you asking me?"
Me: "uuuuugh... I thought that was how things we're suppose to work now?"


That's how it works AFTER the "I do"'s..:mrgreen:

[Ryan_Lap]

That's how it works AFTER the "I do"'s..:mrgreen:

Thats why " I dont'''s" :lol:

Please dont tell my gf.......

[superduperwesman]

omfg...I just had to read all of that so you could double check with your fiance...........Late entry fee $75 and get your balls from her purse while your at it.:lol:

This makes me laugh every time I read it

[sphelps]

Me: "uuuuugh... I thought that was how things we're suppose to work now?"
http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2117.gifAh Wes you have so much to learn http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2431.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2380.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2406.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2428.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2076.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2097.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2433.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2428.gif

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Those are some dirty icons....

[Ryan_Lap]

http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2117.gifAh Wes you have so much to learn http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2431.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2380.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2406.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2428.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2076.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2097.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2433.gif - http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/2428.gif

Now thats creative........haha

[superduperwesman]

Prizes awarded for:

- Best Tank
- Most innovative

Sponsored Prize:

- Best Theme (Donated by Red Coral Aquariums)

http://www.canreef.com/images/ads/redcoralaquarium.jpg



- The winners will receive a gift certificate to the Canreef sponsor/vendor of their choice, taken from the entry fees.

- Basically, we'll take all the $$ contributed for the entry fee and divide it up into 3 equal portions for the winning gift certificates.


Sorry just curious... why will the $$ be divided into 3 equal portions if the one prize is a sponsored one??

Won't it just be divided into 2 for "best tank" and "most innovative"

Just Curious

[superduperwesman]

)
- Do Not miss the Nov 15th Deadline. (ie: Tank must be up and running wet)

Again just to clarify... everyone must have water in the tank by November 15th?? With rock? What about live stock? Will there be any other dates that stuff must be done by besides the monthly photo?

Just curious... cause I don't want to accidentally get disqualified

[JDigital]

Sorry just curious... why will the $$ be divided into 3 equal portions if the one prize is a sponsored one??

Won't it just be divided into 2 for "best tank" and "most innovative"

Just Curious

Best Tank
- 5.5G
- 10G
- Most innovative between everything.

Red Coral doesn't come out of the entry fee.

Again just to clarify... everyone must have water in the tank by November 15th?? With rock? What about live stock? Will there be any other dates that stuff must be done by besides the monthly photo?

Just curious... cause I don't want to accidentally get disqualified

Water w/ Live Rock..

Monthly photo needs to be accompanied by budget update on the 15th of every month.

[superduperwesman]

Best Tank
- 5.5G
- 10G
- Most innovative between everything.

Red Coral doesn't come out of the entry fee.



Water w/ Live Rock..

Monthly photo needs to be accompanied by budget update on the 15th of every month.

Ok... ic... ic

Dang should have went 5.5G better odds... could have been competing against 3 people for 1/3 the $$ opposed to 10 for the same amount... because all the money is evenly split right? Not just the 5.5G entry fees for the 5.5G "best tank" and the 10 gallon fees for the 10 gallon prize?

Interesting...?

Anyway... the more people I beat I guess the more glory I'll have and that is priceless and now I think I know everything I need to know to avoid getting DQed

Thanks

[JDigital]

Ok... ic... ic

Dang should have went 5.5G better odds... could have been competing against 3 people for 1/3 the $$ opposed to 10 for the same amount... because all the money is evenly split right? Not just the 5.5G entry fees for the 5.5G "best tank" and the 10 gallon fees for the 10 gallon prize?

Interesting...?

Anyway... the more people I beat I guess the more glory I'll have and that is priceless and now I think I know everything I need to know to avoid getting DQed

Thanks


sorry, I never copy and pasted from the very original contest post.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=347031&postcount=1

All categories were listed there.

[rocketlily]

I have a question regarding picture taking and posting dates. We are supposed to post a picture on the 15th of every month. What date can we actually take the picture. What happens if someone has to work a shift out of town for a few days including the 15th or if somehas has to go on a 2 week holiday with the 15th falling in the middle of the holiday?

[Scythanith]

I'm sure no one is going to crucify you if you don't get it in on time but I'm not the boss lol!

[JDigital]

I have a question regarding picture taking and posting dates. We are supposed to post a picture on the 15th of every month. What date can we actually take the picture. What happens if someone has to work a shift out of town for a few days including the 15th or if somehas has to go on a 2 week holiday with the 15th falling in the middle of the holiday?

Post prior to any deadline. Just write a note in your post that it is for the Monthly FTS (also make sure your budget is upto date too).

[Ryan_Lap]

Soooooooooooo........

whats going on with all the people that havnt updated their threads with the mandatory FTS?

Also, maybe for the people that have already dropped out, they can have their threads deleted or moved so that only people actually left in the nano build are in the forum. Less cluster.

[superduperwesman]

Soooooooooooo........

whats going on with all the people that havnt updated their threads with the mandatory FTS?

Also, maybe for the people that have already dropped out, they can have their threads deleted or moved so that only people actually left in the nano build are in the forum. Less cluster.

I guess they're out?? Which sucks... I would like there to be as many as possible to vote from at the end.

I agree :) it'll make it a little easier to follow who's still in the competition... or I guess we could just make an updated list??

[JDigital]

Those who didn't update are out.

[rocketlily]

Is there a date that we are not supposed to make any changes by. Can we re-aquascape any time we want. Can we replace the live rock at any time? If we have room in the budget can we add new livestock at any time we want?

[sphelps]

Can we re-aquascape any time we want. Can we replace the live rock at any time? If we have room in the budget can we add new livestock at any time we want?
Sure, why not?

[ElGuappo]

Just wondering if at this point if its too late to change theme or swap out live stock. i have decided i want to remove the majority of my inverts and start with a different idea.

???????????????

[sphelps]

I don't have an issue with it but eventually you're going to have to stick with something.

So far your tank progress seems a little strange to me. I'm not sure that keeping "non-contest" corals in it is fair or should be allowed. I mean it's one thing to do this for temporary storage but it should be done discretely and I don't think you should be posting pictures of the corals in your build thread. If a coral is placed in the tank it should be added to the budget. Yes it was agreed that you could remove livestock but for different reasoning.

[ElGuappo]

the only reason the corals are in there is that i am just waiting to get the light set up on a different tank. i know it doesnt look good as far as the contest goes, but i have no other tanks with the light to support it right now. just triing to get a new bulb and canopy so i can move these corals.

I don't have an issue with it but eventually you're going to have to stick with something.

So far your tank progress seems a little strange to me. I'm not sure that keeping "non-contest" corals in it is fair or should be allowed. I mean it's one thing to do this for temporary storage but it should be done discretely and I don't think you should be posting pictures of the corals in your build thread. If a coral is placed in the tank it should be added to the budget. Yes it was agreed that you could remove livestock but for different reasoning.

[superduperwesman]

When is the last FTS that will be judged? When does the contest end?

[superduperwesman]

NM I just saw it April 15th, so the April 15th FTS is what will be judged?

[sphelps]

I guess so, I'd better stop by the LFS after work today :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[rocketlily]

I guess so, I'd better stop by the LFS after work today :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

You and me both.

[JDigital]

Yea, Last day is April 15 for FTS. It MUST be posted that day, anything after the 15th and you are out of luck as I only have tomorrow to put the polls together. I will be taking the Final FTS, and 1-2 photos (if you posted more than just FTS's) of each tank in the contest, creating voting polls for "Best Tank" and "Most Innovative", and voting will last until the end of the month (Apr. 30/09).

Winner for the Red Coral sponsored "Best Theme" will be announced as soon as I can. I will be speaking with Kevin today, as he will most likely have to contact the winner to arrange whatever he needs to do.. :lol:

Good Luck to all you! :D

[fishytime]

So when does the second contest start Josh?

[JDigital]

So when does the second contest start Josh?

Whenever someone else wants to run it... :lol:

[sphelps]

perhaps you can also provide links to peoples threads (first page) with the 3 photos so contenders can provide a brief summary for those interested.

[superduperwesman]

I won't be posting my shot until later tomorrow night... so how's that going to work if you only have tomorrow to make the voting poll but I won't be home until 11ish to post the shot?

[sphelps]

Maybe someone else can set up the vote, sounds like pretty short notice since this wasn't really mentioned before. I'm guessing if a deadline exists for tomorrow we're going to have some unhappy contenders who got disqualified because they didn't see this post in time.

[michika]

Whenever someone else wants to run it... :lol:

Who are you nominating to do so?

Will the next one have similar rules, or can we change them? I want in on it this time I think, but under different circumstances then the first contest. I'm going to try and start a new thread on this whole thing.

[superduperwesman]

Deadline is tomorrow so as long as you post tomorrow before midnight your own local time I think you're fine

[sphelps]

I say give people a few days or even a week to post their final pics and they should be contacted by PM to be sure they got the notice.

[christyf5]

I'll do the next contest if Josh doesn't want to, unless someone else wants to do it. I doubt I'll be putting up with as much as he did though :razz: We can tweak the rules some if some of you who went through the first one have some constructive feedback.

Just throwing that out there :biggrin:

[rocketlily]

Not quite understanding the logic of extending the deadline by a week for final pictures.

[sphelps]

Not quite understanding the logic of extending the deadline by a week for final pictures.
I'm just thinking of some people who may not be around or see this thread in time. I know Scott for one may be out of town and if so may miss this notice, also Ryan tends to work 16 hour shifts during the early week and may also miss it. We're barely giving 24 hours notice here, just doesn't seem fair since we've all put in 6 months worth of effort. What's the big deal if we postpone voting another week? Was it ever said voting will commence at midnight on April 15th?

[michika]

I'll do the next contest if Josh doesn't want to, unless someone else wants to do it. I doubt I'll be putting up with as much as he did though :razz: We can tweak the rules some if some of you who went through the first one have some constructive feedback.

Just throwing that out there :biggrin:

I started a thread in the forum about this. Come join us!

[christyf5]

Um, not to be picky but isn't the April 15th deadline clearly stated in the first post of this thread??

[JDigital]

Maybe someone else can set up the vote, sounds like pretty short notice since this wasn't really mentioned before. I'm guessing if a deadline exists for tomorrow we're going to have some unhappy contenders who got disqualified because they didn't see this post in time.

April 15th shouldn't be a surprise considering the 15th has been the deadline for every month anyways, and the 15th was stated in the rules from the beginning..

[sphelps]

I don't have a problem meeting the tomorrow deadline and yes it clearly states and always has stated the end of the contest is April 15th but nothing about when voting will start and definitely nothing about total disqualification for missing this deadline. I also thought people could use a little more notice to setup their thread and perhaps do a kind of summary.

But whatever you all want I just don't see the big deal, after all this is just for fun but it seems to feel more like edited.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

I don't have a problem meeting the tomorrow deadline and yes it clearly states and always has stated the end of the contest is April 15th but nothing about when voting will start and definitely nothing about total disqualification for missing this deadline. I also thought people could use a little more notice to setup their thread and perhaps do a kind of summary.

But whatever you all want I just don't see the big deal, after all this is just for fun but it seems to feel more like edited.

LOL...Im not even in the contest but I will chime in and say that every contest I have ever entered had rules and most people know that if the deadline is set and you miss it, your out. Thats just the way contests work.

Comparing it to a dictatorial government is so ridiculous and quite tasteless.

[rocketlily]

Can the pictures be posted today instead of tomorrow, or must they be on the 15th.

[JDigital]

Can the pictures be posted today instead of tomorrow, or must they be on the 15th.

Today or tomorrow. Just make it clear which photo you want me to use in the voting thread. :)

[sphelps]

haha nice!

[sphelps]

So how many photos can we submit for voting? Can I make a collage? lol

[rocketlily]

So how many photos can we submit for voting?

With your skills, and to make it fair, I would say only 1/2.

[sphelps]

With your skills, and to make it fair, I would say only 1/2.

boo

[JDigital]

I dunno.. I'd say like FTS + 3 or 4 would be good.

[sphelps]

obviously it has to be the April FTS right? Would make much sense otherwise but thought I'd check.

[JDigital]

obviously it has to be the April FTS right? Would make much sense otherwise but thought I'd check.

Yup.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

haha nice!

Are you serious? Ever stop and think perhaps there are people who may be VERY offended by your initial comments and now the image you think is funny?

[rocketlily]

So how many photos can we submit for voting? Can I make a collage? lol

Seriously now, is this an option?

[sphelps]

Are you serious? Ever stop and think perhaps there are people who may be VERY offended by your initial comments and now the image you think is funny?
Nope sorry it's just funny.

[christyf5]

ok guys, play nice or I'm shutting this down and NOBODY will be the winner. Seriously.

[superduperwesman]

ok guys, play nice or I'm shutting this down and NOBODY will be the winner. Seriously.

If you shut it down do I get my money back?

[rocketlily]

Is it possible to get an answer to the collage comment that sphelps posted.

[JDigital]

Is it possible to get an answer to the collage comment that sphelps posted.


After some thinking, I will be taking all pictures posted on the first post of everyones build thread, and copy/pasting them into the voting thread. If you want to write a small summary of your vision/intent of your tank, add that to the first page of your build thread as well. The budget will also be included with your pictures in the voting thread, so make it clear to read for all those voting.

[rocketlily]

Thank you, sounds very good.

[sphelps]

After some thinking, I will be taking all pictures posted on the first post of everyones build thread, and copy/pasting them into the voting thread. If you want to write a small summary of your vision/intent of your tank, add that to the first page of your build thread as well. The budget will also be included with your pictures in the voting thread, so make it clear to read for all those voting.
Really? Have you seen mine? It's pretty long with at least 15 pictures. I think we could all be satisfied if you just posted a link to each members first page. Unless you really want to but it sounds like a lot of work.

[superduperwesman]

Yeah probably easier for you if you just post a link to everyone's first page. Easier for you and it kinda solves some of the other problems people were talking about i.e. if people vote before the sleepy heads get around to posting there April shot then tough for them... but if they get it up in a few days and it influences those who are left to vote... fine... who cares? It'll give those who are busy a bit more time to summarize there tank/idea/direction... again making people less likely to vote for the sleepy heads b/c they're goal might not be as easily seen without a bit of background... but at the end of the day it's your contest so whatever you think is best. I'll have my fts up tonight and I've had fun regardless of who wins and the bumpy ride so thank you :)

PS I'm gonna win...b/c I'll bribe people mwahahah

[rocketlily]

I think it would be nice to have one FTS on the voting thread with the links to the build. I don't think it's necessary to have to post 3 or 4 pictures of each. The rules do state that the contest ends today and pictures must be posted on the 15th. If I was running the contest, I would just assume the last picture on the first page of the build is the final shot.

[JDigital]

I going to have to now after PMing Christy, as this forum is not capable of having 2 separate polls in 1 thread, which means I have to make 2 threads instead of one. 1 for Best Tank and 1 for Most Innovative.

The reason I wanted to have everything in a voting thread was to prevent any changes being made once voting starts. As well as to keep it simple for voters so they don't have to jump from thread to thread and back etc etc, everything would be in one thread and they can view all the tanks easily that way.

Perhaps I will still copy/paste the Budget/FTS into the voting thread. Then provide the link to your threads for the rest of the summaries and extra photos should you choose to supply that stuff, but it's not required. :)

Either way there is a deadline and expect it to be adhered to. All final pictures/summaries/updated budget posted on the first post of your build threads by midnight April 15, 2009 (your local time).

[Myka]

Aw, I missed the voting. :(

[superduperwesman]

I don't think it's supposed to be over yet?? I'm not sure why it's closed? Anyone?

[christyf5]

Sorry that was me, I was trying to close the thread to posting but still voting. Apparently you can't do that. Polls are back open now