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newreefy
03-26-2003, 05:32 AM
I am planning on adding 2 x 175W Ushio's 10000k to my tank. I will also want to add some actinic as well. Do i need to use VHO actinic or is it ok to use NO actinic? Will there be much of a difference? As well i know there are many different brands of bulbs out there what are some recommendations as to what brand to buy (VHO or NO)?

Aquattro
03-26-2003, 07:18 AM
NO should be fine. I have one you can try if you want. You can also overdrive the NO tubes with a workhorse balast, if you wanted more light.

ron101
03-26-2003, 04:36 PM
I just switched from NO actinics to 2X overdriven actinics with a Workhorse 7 and there is a noticeable improvement. If you have to purchase a fluroscent ballast anyways then I highly recommend going for the overdrive,

newreefy
03-26-2003, 04:46 PM
I have a workhoarse 7 ballast and 220W seems like a lot to be using for two 40w NO tubes???? What will this do to the life span of these bulbs?

Aquattro
03-26-2003, 04:54 PM
The full 220 won't go thru the tubes. I believe they'll run at about 70 or 80 watts each. I may shorten the life of the bulb a bit, but it's still more cost effective than VHO. That being said, I did switch to VHO and feel it was worth the added cost for the color and brightness. NO tubes are about $17, VHO are about $33.

newreefy
03-26-2003, 05:21 PM
reef raf, what is the life span of your VHO's? I have heard that VHO's only last about 6 months. If i do go with the overdriven NO's what kind of life expectancy am i looking at???

newreefy
03-26-2003, 05:40 PM
reef raf, what is the life span of your VHO's? I have heard that VHO's only last about 6 months. If i do go with the overdriven NO's what kind of life expectancy am i looking at???

Aquattro
03-26-2003, 06:54 PM
I'm only gonna post one answer, k? :biggrin:

I have been running them 5 months now and they still work. I have heard that they last 4 months. I also heard they last 2 years. Who knows?? Mine still work and I expect I'll change them at a year, just for fun. NO bulbs would probably give similar results.

Delphinus
03-26-2003, 07:07 PM
I'm with Brad. It seems useful lifespan expectations vary wildly depending on who you ask.

When I used NO O3's, I found I had to replace them at six months, or face cyano blooms (which would go away as soon as the tubes were replaced). But now I run VHO actinics, and I'm thinking, oh, shoot, these tubes are now about a year old. And they still turn on .... so ... I dunno, seems I've gotten away with more than 6 months on these at any rate.

I figure, if nothing else, aim for once per year. If you find that's not enough (only time and experience will tell for you IMO), then step it up and see how that works out..

cheers

ron101
03-26-2003, 07:14 PM
Brad is right, running two four foot tubes off a WH7 in the recommended wiring config will only run them at HO not VHO levels.

newreefy
03-26-2003, 09:59 PM
so i will most likely see better coloring and brighter light if i use two 48" VHO's compared to two overdriven 48" NO's running off a workhoarse 7 ballast

Aquattro
03-26-2003, 10:00 PM
different coloring and brighter light

newreefy
03-26-2003, 10:09 PM
looks like i better take advantage of J&L's free shipping for the month of march!!!!!!! What is the difference between an "Actinic White 12000k" and a "Super Actinic" VHO bulb. (Both URI)

Aquattro
03-26-2003, 10:55 PM
Actinic White = - 180 degree internal reflector
- 50/50 White/Blue Spectrum
- 12,000K Color Temperature

Super Actinc= - 180 degree internal reflector
- 100% Blue Spectrum peaking at 420 nm

newreefy
03-27-2003, 04:56 AM
Thanks, but i wanted to know how different will they look on the tank is the super actinc white glow white or blue? i know the actinic glows blue just wondering about the Super actinic white

canadawest
03-27-2003, 05:41 PM
The Actinic lamps are a blue color. Only produce Actinic spectrum.

The Actinic Whites are a white lamp that have actinic supplementation in them.

I run a combination of 6500K daylight and Super Actinics and find I get excellent coral growth, and nice pleasant appearance.

When I ran the Aquasun VHO lamps I found them a bit pink, not truly white and while I've never seen the Actinic White lamps lit, I would assume they also would be pink/blue not a truly white light.