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mark
11-12-2007, 04:34 AM
Found interesting

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h316/das75/nofoam.jpg

from here (http://www.oceansmotions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=984)

Drock169
11-12-2007, 05:04 AM
I wonder why he has the outputs on the bottom rather than the back of the tank. Anyone know why? or have suggestions, I'm curious because my fiancee dad asked me to design a corner tank that is space limited.

Myka
11-12-2007, 05:11 AM
I wonder why he has the outputs on the bottom rather than the back of the tank. Anyone know why? or have suggestions, I'm curious because my fiancee dad asked me to design a corner tank that is space limited.

I can't see the photos on that link, so I'm not sure if I'm answering this correctly, but I think I know what you're asking. Tanks are usually bottom drilled for overflows. Side drilling is usually for tanks with no overflows. Unless you mean the inputs are drilled on the bottom, in which case that is really just personal preference...some people like inputs on the bottom of the tank, others don't. Those who like it, like it because there's less filtering "waste effort" in the fact that if water is surface skimmed out of the tank, and returned down below, then there is more of a circular flow. If input and output are both near the top of the tank, then you will re-filter water that just came from the sump more than you would if it was output up and input down. Does that make sense? I don't like bottom returns simply because if you have a leak you have to tear down the whole tank. Side inputs allow you to just drain the tank down below them to repair. Same thing with outputs...they are either side drilled or use overflows, either way they can just be drained down a bit in order to repair.

mark
11-12-2007, 05:21 AM
I wonder why he has the outputs on the bottom rather than the back of the tank. Anyone know why? or have suggestions, I'm curious because my fiancee dad asked me to design a corner tank that is space limited.

Got mine drilled with the 4 CL returns on the bottom corners due setup as divider (viewable both sides).

Drock169
11-12-2007, 05:49 AM
Thanks for the replys, it makes sense what you guys are saying. Although I still think I would prefer 4 side inputs 2 high/2 low for circulation.

untamed
11-12-2007, 06:14 AM
I recognize an OM 4 way setup anywhere....

I also see that the bulkheads are installed backwards, and siliconed in. My experience is that bulkheads leak when installed that way, so the silicon is probably pretty important here.

Myka
11-12-2007, 06:35 AM
Thanks for the replys, it makes sense what you guys are saying. Although I still think I would prefer 4 side inputs 2 high/2 low for circulation.

It depends what size tank you have. A tank that is 4' or less is quite fine with only one output and one return. Put them both up high, one on the left side one on the right side of the back pane. Use Loc-Line to direct the return flow down and to the front, and voilâ you have a circular water flow in the tank! :D

Chin_Lee
11-12-2007, 06:40 AM
I recognize an OM 4 way setup anywhere....

I also see that the bulkheads are installed backwards, and siliconed in. My experience is that bulkheads leak when installed that way, so the silicon is probably pretty important here.

bulkheads installed that way is asking for some trouble. a hard bump or slightest movement will break the silicone seal and dump the entire content of the tank to the ground.

mark
11-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Another top down picture (fr here (http://www.oceansmotions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1005)).

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h316/das75/92b.jpg

spoot
11-28-2007, 04:46 PM
Is that tile and grout inside the tank?

mark
11-28-2007, 04:50 PM
Appears the tile is on the stand (see second picture from link).

SeaShell
11-28-2007, 06:51 PM
Wouldn't it need foam between the tank and the stand?

mark
11-28-2007, 06:59 PM
You'll see lots of tanks are construction that the tank is supported by the edges (sides), not the bottom.

When foam is used it's more to make up the stand not being truly flat, rather than for supporting the bottom plate.

(to above applies to glass, acrylic should be supported on bottom see here (http://www.firsttankguide.net/tanktype.php))

untamed
11-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Interesting photos...but why are we looking at them? It is two different tanks. Both are OM4 way installations. Are these your tanks? Are you looking for advice?

mark
11-28-2007, 11:16 PM
Interesting photos...but why are we looking at them? It is two different tanks. Both are OM4 way installations. Are these your tanks? Are you looking for advice?

Not my tanks but do find an neat way to visualize plumbing layouts and you have to admit the second photo is a work of art.