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IceTurf
10-17-2007, 12:27 AM
Hey, knowing that u guys are experienced reef guys, what are decent bulbs or K rating's to promote good coral growth?

michika
10-17-2007, 01:04 AM
yellow =lots o' growth, but bad color 10K
white = some growth, semi-good color 14 or 15K
blue = minimal growth, color that popos. 20K

Granted this all depends on the make/brand. Some lights are barely even blue at 20k, and some are start white at 10K.

What may work best though is MH supplimented with PCs or VHOs. You get the best of growth, but you can suppliment to adjust to the color you want.

You may also want to visit Sanjay's site, he is the lighting guru: http://www.reeflightinginfo.arvixe.com/

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:07 AM
and 50/50 10k and ar(srry i forget spellin) blue lights?

michika
10-17-2007, 01:11 AM
I guess what I would ask you is what are you trying to accomplish with your lighting and what are you keeping under it?

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:13 AM
actually i'm setting up a new tank, and i'm just figuring out what corals i can have depending on what lights I can get for a decent price

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:16 AM
I'm personally aiming for *yes your guessed it, well maybe not* "acropora" frags and or SPS in general.

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:19 AM
hmm oh yes and currently I'm leaning towards these http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/209268/product.web?utm_source=ink&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=209268
bulbs as they are fewer $'s then the other ones and they work for my tank top/light system

I was reading about a few 14k 50/50 bulbs, well more accurately tank packages, and the match I found closest to those bulbs were the ones above so thoughts?


Currently I have one 6.7k compact fluorescent bulb.

michika
10-17-2007, 01:29 AM
With those bulbs the best you could keep is probably softies, some zoas, some LPS, and MAYBE some forgiving SPS. The intensity isn't enough to keep the vibrant colors that most SPS have, it may also hinder their growth.

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:34 AM
so, just maxing out all possibilities here, what would be a rated bulb/stats of a bulb for acropora corals? (other then metalh's)

michika
10-17-2007, 01:41 AM
For SPS, you can try either metal halide lighting, or overdriven T5s. T5s are popular in Europe and gaining popularity here.

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:48 AM
does the mh bulb matter? T5's are just fluorescent's, what makes them better then the other 10k fluorescent bulbs?

mark
10-17-2007, 01:51 AM
First understand there's lots and lots of variables (tank depth, clarity of water, bulb spectrum, efficiency, etc, etc) but to get an idea of total wattage required for rough estimate purposes of coming up with a budget for lighting a tank with photosynthetic corals, use 5 watts/gallon.

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 01:53 AM
hmm sorry i should fill out what tank I'm gonna run. I have your very basic 10 gallon tank W/cover+lighting system (basic bulb input, think round) -two 20W versions of those bulbs http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/209268/i/1/product.web
would be about 20% shy of what I need, which I can work with-
BTW, how well do bio-filters work for nano's, I know that skimmers are prefered but would a good bio filter work?

mark
10-17-2007, 02:00 AM
Wish you luck, as might find a tank that size for starting out and then as a hardcore reef to be a bit of a challenge.

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 02:02 AM
lol, yea "the bigger the better" i'll start with softies first then work my way up (;, i just didn't want to waste money on bulbs that would be useless. So, basically two 20w's of those bulbs might be able to do it?

danny zubot
10-17-2007, 05:11 AM
I started out with pretty much the same setup you will be and I think I've come through ok. 10 gallon tanks are shallow so with 2 of those 20 watters you will be able to keep leathers such as finger or toodstools. You will be able to keep zoanthids, palys and ricordias etc. You should manage with green star polyps and zenia. All of which are good beginner corals. Do me a favour though, stick with only the easiest variety until you can upgrade your lighting. Good luck, and welcome to the addiction.:mrgreen:

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 02:45 PM
tks for the tips and its nice to be in. I'll definitally start with some pulsing Zenia.

Der_Iron_Chef
10-17-2007, 03:09 PM
T5's are fluorescent bulbs, correct. I think the reason for their popularity is that they are much thinner, and don't block nearly as much of the light reflection. Which brings me to my next point. T5 set-ups without individual reflectors are pretty average as well (i.e. not suitable for SPS).

IceTurf
10-17-2007, 03:14 PM
hmm, makes sense.

tang daddy
10-17-2007, 04:33 PM
t5 can grow sps but they have to be high output H/O also I think there are alot of factors that come in with an sps tank not just the lights like stability, dosing, and other factors. IMO t5 are awesome but for the cost of bulb replacement on t5 versus MH I went with MH. I've seen many tanks with t5 and they have 5-8 bulbs on a set up versus 2-3 bulbs on an MH set up also HO t5 gives a nice colour to the tank because you can use so many different bulbs on 1 diy fixture from pink to blue to purple even greenish.