430 watt Son Agro ballasts [Archive] - Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 02:45 AM

well during my hunt for reflectors I came across a good price on Son Agro ballast for the 400 watt radium bulbs (they also run the Ushio 400 watt real white) same ballast that a certian company uses in its HQI ballast :wink:

I can get an Advance 430 watt Son Agro ballast for 70.00 including Taxes. so the only other cost will be shipping for thoes who want them.

I did some checking on shipping by greyhound and here are some examples of the rates to different areas

from Victoria to Vancouver aprox 9.97 for one ballast or 12.39 for two

From Victoria to Calgary/Edmonton 20.56 for one ballast or 27.16 for two

From Victoria to Winnipeg aprox 26.03 for one ballast or 32.63 for two

Oh ya Victoria shipping... FREE :wink:

and Ontario has a weird shipping system it is 45.64 for one ballast and 58.28 for two. ( I think for Onterio you would need to get two or more ballast to make shipping worth it... I will look into postal shipping in the next couple days to see if it is more cost effective.

So anyone who wants one of thease ballast let me know and we can see what kind of interest there is in them..

Steve

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 03:17 AM

OK, I'll take 2.

I also referred some others to this thread since it's probably the best deal they'll find.

Canadian Man

01-08-2003, 03:55 AM

I will take 2 as well Steve.
I'm buying everything from you latley :roll: :wink:

pocilipora

01-08-2003, 04:17 AM

Ill take 2 please!!

Islander

01-08-2003, 04:34 AM

I'll take 2 as well, if you can hang on to it for me until next time I come back home.

Thanks Steve,
Ken

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 05:15 AM

I'll take 2 as well, if you can hang on to it for me until next time I come back home.

Thanks Steve,
Ken

Whare are you Ken? as for holding it.. as long as its paied for I can hold them as long as you want :wink:

I'll let this thread go a few days to see total intrest and then I will contact everyone through e-mail and put up a final tally

Steve

ldzielak

01-08-2003, 05:51 AM

Do you guys think I could put 2x400 in my PFO style 48" box, with 2 fans? Like the one J&L has over the clam tank? I guess I could part with my 175's then. I wonder if they would cook my VHO, not that I would need them any more.

Lee

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 05:57 AM

Lee, I think you'd be fine.

Islander

01-08-2003, 06:09 AM

Whare are you Ken? as for holding it.. as long as its paied for I can hold them as long as you want :wink:

Steve

I live in Lloydminster, Alberta now, but I call Victoria my home. I missed the trees, mountains and ocean..... :cry:

I'll pay you first and pick it up when I am back for visit.

Ken

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 06:12 AM

I live in Lloydminster, Alberta now, but I call Victoria my home. I missed the trees, mountains and ocean..... :cry:

I'll pay you first and pick it up when I am back for visit.

Ken

that works Ken, how did you end up in Loyd?

Steve

One_Divided

01-08-2003, 06:53 AM

You know I want one steve.. :D

kris

01-08-2003, 08:18 AM

ooh oooh ooooooh me too, then i can work on real lighting :D and finally getting my tank properly set up.

i think i will take one steve.. but that might change in a little while to 2... i will let you know

Dresden

01-08-2003, 09:27 AM

i'll add my name for 2 unless u want to split an order kris one each?

SuperFudge

01-08-2003, 02:54 PM

Steve and Brad,

Are these are still cap n coil ballasts?

...i would prefer to wait for my e-ballasts, but i can actually buy 4 of the son agros for the same price as 1 e-ballast. :shock:

Thanx,

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 02:57 PM

Marc, yes, they are. But I have to say, they make those 10k Ushios look nice!!

SuperFudge

01-08-2003, 03:10 PM

Thanks Brad, (and hey....i never heard from you monday....ya missed some new frags)

I just might withdraw my order then, so am i correct in thinking that they will fire 20k, 10k, and 6500`s ?

I am considering 3 ballasts and would like to run all same ballasts but with maybe a combination of bulbs,and yet unsure what combination i will run.

Steve, if i do go this route, how could i send a payment and how long do you suspect it will take to recieve them?

Its not that im impatient......well,yes it is... ive been waiting on the e-ballasts for 3 months almost now. :evil:

Thanks Guys,

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 04:06 PM

Marc, we called your cell a few times, called your home and checked Tim Horton's!! :P What kind of frags did we miss? Or is it better I don't know?

Yes, they will fire the 10k and 20k for sure, but I'm not sure about the 65k as I *think" that bulb has it's own ignitor. Steve may know better than I on that.

Steve will have to answer the availability/time questions.

Delphinus

01-08-2003, 04:08 PM

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 04:11 PM

Tony, are you saying you don't like to waste money???? I would say then that you're doing this all wrong! :P
If you can get them locally for $80, that would be my choice. Shipping a 15 pound ballast with ANY method is going to be more than $10

Canadian Man

01-08-2003, 04:47 PM

where did you find them at Tony and what's the price exactally.
From steve they are going to be like 165 including shipping for 2 ballast's.

stephane

01-08-2003, 08:42 PM

the agro will not be a good ballast for the Saki

Josh23

01-08-2003, 09:07 PM

are these ballasts available in smaller wattage values such as a 250 or only the 430 as mentioned above.

Josh

Aquattro

01-08-2003, 09:11 PM

Josh, Sn Agro ballasts come in 430 and 6something. No 250w.

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 11:08 PM

Exactly what method of shipping? The reason I ask is, it seems kind of high. Can you look into postage price? The local price of a Son Agro ballast in Calgary is $80-90 so $70 + 30 is not yet advantageous. Not that I don't appreciate what you're doing, of course! But if that's not the Canada Post price then just for curiousity I'd like to see the CP price before I decide to extend my debt load yet another $100 or $200 ....

I will get a canada post price for you... if you are pooling shipping with someone else from Calgary it can get cheeper.. for example it is 22 bucks shipping for one ballast so it is 70 plus 22 not 30.00 which means just over 90.00 including taxes.. now if there were 4 going to Calgary the shipping would be 42.06 which makes them 80.50 each including everything.. if you can buy them for 80 there it would be at least 5.00 more.. and for 6 ballast the shipping drops down to about 8 bucks each so it would be 78.00 each ballast roughly.. now is that a huge savings.. not over 80.00 but it is cheeper..

I Just looked up the delivery to Calgary for two ballast.. it works out to 17.66 total for two ballasts in 4 days.

27.45 for 4 ballast in 4 days to Calgary.. so looks like standard parcel throught canada post is cheeper..

Steve

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 11:12 PM

well I think I am going to have top set a time for final interest.. how does friday noon sound? that gives me the afternoon to get confermation on the numbers and delivery times and then I can get back to everyone friday night.

Josh, for 250 watt bulbs I can get the Advance M80 ballasts (the HQI ballasts) for a little better of a price than J&L sells them for but there is a two week delivery time on them.. if there is enuf interest in them I could inquire about thoes again (I just ordered mine last week...)

Steve

Delphinus

01-08-2003, 11:24 PM

Thanks for looking into that, Steve, I appreciate it.

One last question before I go and agonize over a decision. (You've caught me at a time I was about to replace 3 halide bulbs, so this will seriously impact my lighting budget in the short-term here...) The ballasts that you will be getting, are they Advance #71A85E6, or are they a different one? (Edit: I originally missed that you said these were the Advance ballasts.) Thanks for the info.

StirCrazy

01-08-2003, 11:54 PM

The ballasts that you will be getting, are they Advance #71A85E6, or are they a different one?

Yes this is the ones I was quoted on. (but I will call tomorrow just to conferm that.

Steve

Delphinus

01-09-2003, 12:06 AM

Ok ..... (oh, I am going to be in sooo much trouble for this :( ) .... but ... please count me in for two.

PS. I double checked, the price in Calgary is more like $87.50. But a special-order item, so possibly not the right ballast (they weren't able to confirm the part #).

Canadian Man

01-09-2003, 12:07 AM

Tony if it's cheeper than we should get all of our's shipped at the same time?

BC_Grl

01-09-2003, 12:14 AM

Dang good price... Too bad we can't sell the Dual Bluewave...

Delphinus

01-09-2003, 12:15 AM

Er ... yes of course. Sorry I was assuming that anyone in Calgary would be pooling into an single shipment. I also assume that not only is it cheaper, but it's easier on Steve to only do one shipment as well instead of a whole bunch (I wouldn't want to break Steve when he's so close to topping DJ88's post count :P )

Tau2301

01-09-2003, 02:01 AM

EmilyB

01-09-2003, 03:15 AM

for 250 watt bulbs I can get the Advance M80 ballasts (the HQI ballasts) for a little better of a price than J&L sells them for but there is a two week delivery time on them.. if there is enuf interest in them I could inquire about thoes again (I just ordered mine last week...)

Yes, I'd be interested in a quote on those Steve for the German 10kk bulbs, I presume.

StirCrazy

01-09-2003, 03:43 AM

Tony, you may want to check out brite-lite.com as they are currently having a sale on their light products. They list an Advance 400W MH Ballast for $69.95 - sorry I didn't find a part number yet.

http://www.brite-lite.com/CdnShop/Publish/vindex.htm

thoes are a standard 400 watt MH ballast.. not a son agro.. 69.00 is a normal price for that ballast..

Steve

Tau2301

01-09-2003, 03:52 AM

thoes are a standard 400 watt MH ballast.. not a son agro.. 69.00 is a normal price for that ballast..
spelling not corrected for Bob's sake. :lol:

Ah, one day I hope to snatch the pebble from your hand Master> :D

StirCrazy

01-09-2003, 03:53 AM

Ok so here is the count as of now.

from Calgary

Jon 2
Tony 2

From Vancouver and lower mainland

pocilipora 2
Kris 1
Dresden 1
Marc ?

From Island

Brad 2
Islander 2
Lee 2
Adam 1

is this right? did I miss anyone?

Steve

Canadian Man

01-09-2003, 04:04 AM

I just talked to Des tonight and he may add 2 onto the Calgary order for himself. But don't make that a yes untill he says so.
cheers.

Dresden

01-09-2003, 04:32 AM

me and kris are splitting an order one each, but we work together so shouldn't be too much trouble.

ldzielak

01-09-2003, 05:47 AM

Well put me down for 2, guess I will see how hot this light box can really get. How soon are you thinking about doing this? I should be passing through on 20th of Jan.

Lee

Dez

01-09-2003, 02:59 PM

Count me in for 2....shipped to Calgary... How do we pay you?

Des

StirCrazy

01-09-2003, 03:43 PM

Well got some bad news today and I am going to have to drop this whole deal.. seams that my quoted brice was for the son agro bulb... bot the ballast.. and with the new price on the ballast it isn't worth the shipping...

Sorry about the confusion.. I will see about other possabilities and get back to you.. I may be able to get the price down but I am going to go in there today and talk to him instead of on the phone.

Steve

Delphinus

01-09-2003, 03:54 PM

You know, I've had this exact problem too. I said "I need the 430 HPS Son Agro ballast. What is your price." The answer: "$34.50". After a half second of hopeful delirium where I get fantasies of ordering, oh, TEN or so at that price, reality sets in. Too good to be true, I think. I say "The BALLAST. Not the bulb." The answer: "Yes. The ballast. It's a screw in type, and you need a Son Agro ballast to run these bulbs." Gaaaahhhh!!!

Where do they find these people???

Just curious, what is your new price on the ballast. If it's more than $87.50, let me know, maybe we over here in Calgary can send you some at that price. Not as good as $70 though. :( But better than $110 which is one price I had found at another place!

The only thing is, I'm a little afraid that the price seems to change a little every time I phone and ask. It seems to depend on who answers the phone at the parts counter and what mood they're in. Maybe even $87.50 is too good to be true. But I can find out for you for certain if you like, just let me know.