HELP HELP HELP with yellow tang

[Mik_101]

Okay I have a yellow tang and he has ich along with black dot or what ever its called and im wondering is ther any other way to treat ich besides fresh water dip?

[Aquattro]

sure, put him in the quarantine tank and treat with copper, then put him in a bigger tank so he isn't stressed.

Or my favorite, garlic. And a bigger tank.

[Jason McK]

So how is your Naso doing with the Yellow Tang in there too

J

[Zoaelite]

Possible solutions for curing Ich include Garlic, Copper treatment in a quarantine tank and an increase in Aminoacids/Proteins in the diet (Ich really only affects fish which are stressed out and are lacking the vital slime coat that protects them from infection). Of course you should treat the underlying problem promptly, I dont know alot about your system but if there is more than 1 tang in a tank smaller than 150G right there problems can arise from the natural territoral aspect of the Acanthurus species. Not to act as the "Tang Police" but does this not specificly show that any type of tang in small tank will be more prone to infection?
Levi

[bv_reefer]

man yellow tangs sure are susceptible to parisites, it's wierd too because his water is pretty good quality and as far as i know it eats a pretty balanced diet which is supposed to help fight off parasites..

[findingnemo1]

Okay but the problem lies that it is in a 33 gallon. They are one of the more hardier tangs when it comes to disease but it is stressed from where it is living. You need to get it out and treat it and every other fish for the ich. The naso will be next i am affraid.

[bv_reefer]

oh no his is a 46-gallon, mines the 33g, but ya still it's still a small tank for a tang no doubt

[Mik_101]

So how is your Naso doing with the Yellow Tang in there too

J

Traded him for a yellow tang

[Mik_101]

oh no his is a 46-gallon, mines the 33g, but ya still it's still a small tank for a tang no doubt

You have a sail fin tang in yours.

[Borderjumper]

:popcorn: :drinking:

[bv_reefer]

ya but my sailfin is 1/2 the size and healthy as heck, and eats 2 sheets of seaweed a day so whatever...lol

[scsi]

46.... 33.....
both too small for tangs imo......
I really want a yellow tang for my 80G, but I'm thinking he might not be completely happy in it. I'm undecided......
In the end, the fish always wins

[Renegade]

I don't know what to say

[Redrover]

Tang's are swimmers...tank to small...stressed out which won't help to get rid of any kind of pest:drinking:

[Aquattro]

boys, take the arguing back and forth to PM please.

I think a YT in a 46 is reasonable, although they are not what I'd call susceptible to disease. I had my YT for 8 years and it never got sick, even when it was in a 45g tank.
Sailfins in 33g tanks is pushing it, since they can grow much larger than a yellow.

Make sure the temp is stable, all water parameters are acceptable and feed a good selection of food, including garlic soaked nori and the YT should be fine.

[Borderjumper]

I don't know what to say

Its like driving past a wreck on the road.. you dont wanna look.. but you cant help yourself.

[bv_reefer]

I don't know what to say-i donno honestly i've never seen mine stressed renegade all he does all day is eat hair algae and sea weed and swim through live rock, same as in a big tank so whatever..

[EmilyB]

My Easy Button isn't working.

[Aquattro]

My Easy Button isn't working.


It only works before school starts. They don't tell ya that in the commercials though

[Chowder]

lol

[Mik_101]

boys, take the arguing back and forth to PM please.

I think a YT in a 46 is reasonable, although they are not what I'd call susceptible to disease. I had my YT for 8 years and it never got sick, even when it was in a 45g tank.
Sailfins in 33g tanks is pushing it, since they can grow much larger than a yellow.

Make sure the temp is stable, all water parameters are acceptable and feed a good selection of food, including garlic soaked nori and the YT should be fine.

So i should just throw him back into the main tank? Feed him garlic, soaked nori and that he shuld heel because it was worse but got much better and i mean MUCH better. He had ich everyber and now his got a bit on his belly and a few black spots.

[findingnemo1]

Ich goes through cycles. If it looks like it has all gone then what it has done is dropped off to the substrate,rocks and corals and then comes back with a vengence. If you already have it out of the tank then treat it with hypo andbe done with it. Leave your main tank fishless for 6 weeks and all should be good. i would treat it if it is out already. Otherwise try and keep the diet good with garlic soaked foods if it is still in there.

[Mik_101]

Ich goes through cycles. If it looks like it has all gone then what it has done is dropped off to the substrate,rocks and corals and then comes back with a vengence. If you already have it out of the tank then treat it with hypo andbe done with it. Leave your main tank fishless for 6 weeks and all should be good. i would treat it if it is out already. Otherwise try and keep the diet good with garlic soaked foods if it is still in there.

what do you mean by soaked foods?
are you saying i should take all my live stock out?
The yellow tang is the only one with it. I hope. is ther any chemical i can add to the tank so the fish get a thiker slime coat?
& garlic like regular garlick from the food store?

[Aquattro]

Ok, my thoughts on treating ich (like anyone cares:)) If a fish gets ich it's mostly likely due to stress of one sort or another. Trying to catch said fish and put it in a hospital tank is going to do nothing good for the stress level. This is assuming a reef tank with lots of places to hide and snag nets, etc.
One needs to accurately/honestly assess the cause of said stress and alleviate it immediately.
Now, a healthy well fed fish is going to be better able to fight off the stress and therefore the disease/parasite/nasty things better.
So, if it were me, as soon as I see any outbreak of bad in my tank, I feed a higher protien diet (PE mysis is my favorite) as well as soaking nori in freshly squeezed garlic oil. You do this by crushing fresh garlic and rubbing the nori through the pulp until it's soaked (this is where the soaked part comes in). Feed as much as the fish will eat until it appears bored of eating nd remove leftover nori so it doesn't pollute tank.

Now *IF* the fish is already in a bare tank, then go ahead with hyposalinity/copper/voodoo, whatever works and is recommended by the masses. I've never gone that route, but haven't had lots of need to treat fish. Just my 2 cents, yes, Rob, I know you think I'm nuts.

[Zoaelite]

Possible solutions for curing Ich include Garlic, Copper treatment in a quarantine tank and an increase in Aminoacids/Proteins in the diet (Ich really only affects fish which are stressed out and are lacking the vital slime coat that protects them from infection). Of course you should treat the underlying problem promptly, I dont know alot about your system but if there is more than 1 tang in a tank smaller than 150G right there problems can arise from the natural territoral aspect of the Acanthurus species. Not to act as the "Tang Police" but does this not specificly show that any type of tang in small tank will be more prone to infection?
Levi

Ok, my thoughts on treating ich (like anyone cares:)) If a fish gets ich it's mostly likely due to stress of one sort or another. Trying to catch said fish and put it in a hospital tank is going to do nothing good for the stress level. This is assuming a reef tank with lots of places to hide and snag nets, etc.
One needs to accurately/honestly assess the cause of said stress and alleviate it immediately.
Now, a healthy well fed fish is going to be better able to fight off the stress and therefore the disease/parasite/nasty things better.
So, if it were me, as soon as I see any outbreak of bad in my tank, I feed a higher protien diet (PE mysis is my favorite) as well as soaking nori in freshly squeezed garlic oil. You do this by crushing fresh garlic and rubbing the nori through the pulp until it's soaked (this is where the soaked part comes in). Feed as much as the fish will eat until it appears bored of eating nd remove leftover nori so it doesn't pollute tank.

Now *IF* the fish is already in a bare tank, then go ahead with hyposalinity/copper/voodoo, whatever works and is recommended by the masses. I've never gone that route, but haven't had lots of need to treat fish. Just my 2 cents, yes, Rob, I know you think I'm nuts.

Great minds think alike ;)... Or read the same info off Canreef :D

[Gordon H]

Here one more tact - our powder blue tank gets ich periodically, but our cleaner shrimp and neon gobies keep it under control. Whenever he gets it, he knows to go find the cleaners who clean him up great. He seems to be a little ticklish, so he tends to go to the gobies rather than the shrimp, but the rest of our fish get cleaned regularly by the cleaner shrimp (mostly fire shrimp). Hope that helps.

[Pan]

Ok, my thoughts on treating ich (like anyone cares:)) If a fish gets ich it's mostly likely due to stress of one sort or another. Trying to catch said fish and put it in a hospital tank is going to do nothing good for the stress level. This is assuming a reef tank with lots of places to hide and snag nets, etc.
One needs to accurately/honestly assess the cause of said stress and alleviate it immediately.
Now, a healthy well fed fish is going to be better able to fight off the stress and therefore the disease/parasite/nasty things better.
So, if it were me, as soon as I see any outbreak of bad in my tank, I feed a higher protien diet (PE mysis is my favorite) as well as soaking nori in freshly squeezed garlic oil. You do this by crushing fresh garlic and rubbing the nori through the pulp until it's soaked (this is where the soaked part comes in). Feed as much as the fish will eat until it appears bored of eating nd remove leftover nori so it doesn't pollute tank.

Now *IF* the fish is already in a bare tank, then go ahead with hyposalinity/copper/voodoo, whatever works and is recommended by the masses. I've never gone that route, but haven't had lots of need to treat fish. Just my 2 cents, yes, Rob, I know you think I'm nuts.

Does voodoo really work? Do we get to keep the left over rum and chicken....?

[Captainhemo]

Hereit is again:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php (http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php)

It really is worth reading