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scsi
08-04-2007, 08:01 AM
So, tomorrow is the big day. I'v had my tank set up for 2 weeks now, and I'm reasonably happy with the temp and water conditions thus far. I'm going into Edmonton this weekend to buy 90lbs of cured (2 months) Live rock. A mixture of Fiji and Tonga I'm told. Nice stuff growing on it already.... Poylps, and Featherdusters.... plus nice shades of coulor to it.

He said I could come over and pick what I liked (Reefwerkz btw). Now I'm going to do this Saturday night 8pmish or so..... I can't get back to my tank with it till approx 10am the next day...... I'm already scared.

We'll pack it in water from his tank and I'll have a powerhead in the container all night.... Even so I'm still scared. Details to follow.

SeaHorse_Fanatic
08-04-2007, 08:10 AM
If it's packed in water with circulation & the temp doesn't fluctuate too much, you should be fine. Just make sure you test the water quality for the next couple of weeks at least. If there is a spike, with cured LR transported that way, the spike should be small.

Good luck.

EmilyB
08-04-2007, 08:11 AM
Exciting ! It should be just fine. Take the time to enjoy the life on your rock, all too soon we put critters in that eat it all.

Mik_101
08-04-2007, 08:14 AM
I would keep an eye on things I had a tiney spike nothing serious though.

scsi
08-04-2007, 08:25 AM
Gawd... I have'nt been this excited since the night I knew I was going to lose my virginity :lol:

fishytime
08-04-2007, 02:58 PM
:lol:We need pics.( and not of that special night)

Der_Iron_Chef
08-04-2007, 03:15 PM
LOL. *awkward*

christyf5
08-04-2007, 03:22 PM
:rofl:

yes I was going to suggest pics as well, but wanted to wait until a few more posts were made to pass that one :razz:

Doug
08-04-2007, 04:22 PM
Gawd... I have'nt been this excited since the night I knew I was going to lose my virginity :lol:


:shocked!:


The rock should be fine, esp. with water and a powerhead. Many times we carry it just in a salt bucket, a bit of water and lots of wet newspaper wrapping the rock. If needed a small Canadian Tire inverter will power a powerhead and small 50w Ebo heater. I have transported a lot of livestock that way.

scsi
08-05-2007, 07:31 PM
I just got back from the city and placed the rock in my tank. I'll be borrowing my Brother-in-Law's Canon Digital EOS to take pics of the setup thus far tonight.....
Good coraline growth on rocks, and some small poylps, and a couple of crabs as hitch hickers... thought about dumping them because I didn't know what they were, but then tossed them into the tank with everything else.... we'll see if that was a wise move or not.

scsi
08-06-2007, 05:22 PM
Took these this morning

scsi
08-06-2007, 08:27 PM
well, I can already tell that heat is going to be a problem with this tank. I have 2 Seio 620's and 2 maxi jet 400's. They may be giving off some heat, but I'm sure the main culprit is the Aquapro 150. I couldn't use the legs because my tank is just a teensy bit too narrow. Consequently I have to rest the fixture directly on top of the tank itself. It's approximately 4-5 inches from the surface of the water. There's no glass barrier between the fixture and the water. Temp in the house is 75 degrees, temp in the tank is pushing 82. I'm not very happy about this. Thinking do I need a chiller?

Also I'v come to the conclusion that I really want a sump.... Lando and I are trying to get that organized. If you read this Lando.... tell me what you think is a fair price :wink:

fkshiu
08-06-2007, 09:51 PM
Don't bother with a chiller yet.

You can raise the fixture the cheapo way by resting it on a pair of wooden blocks (like 2x4s) sitting on either side of the tank (running front to back).

Then you can use a small clip-on fan blowing across the water surface.

Should work well and be much more economical than a chiller.

muck
08-07-2007, 04:35 AM
Rock looks great in your tank Brian. Glad to see it made it home ok.

scsi
08-10-2007, 08:43 PM
it's been 4 days since my last entry. I think I'v got the heat problem licked. I used a couple of 2X4's to raise the conopy a bit and temp has stabilized @ 76-78

I'm starting to realize however that there's a tricky balance between PH, KH and CA levels. Right now my CA is a little on the high side @ 450 or even a little more... maybe 460.

PH is also a little on the high side too @ 8.5. Problem is that KH is a little on the low side @ 100.... 105 maybe. I used one dose of Reef Builder Carbonate Alkalinity over a 2 day period to try and raise the KH level slightly, but I don't want to raise the PH anymore. Conversely, if I try to bring the PH, and CA down slightly with a water change, I'm also lowering my KH level. So....

One problem I might be having is trying to establish accurate readings off the Hagen Master test kit I got. Is it just me or is trying to match up the color of your sample with the chart on the back of the booklet almost like trying to read a crystal ball? The colors don't match very well. Is there a product short of spending money on probes that makes it easier to get a reliable reading?

DanG
08-11-2007, 03:34 AM
when those kits run out (or your patience runs out) switch to salifert kits. I've compared Hagen and Salifert kits together and the accuracy is about the same, but the salifert kits just work so much easier. You get your test water in the cup, add parts 1 and 2, and then squirt in the liquid from the syringe until the colour of the test water changes, and it's big change, from blue to purple, no in between, you can tell right away. Just look at the marking on the syringe and match the number to the sheet and you have your number. None of the Hagen add one drop, put lid on, shake, repeat.
The other thing you should be checking for is magnesium, and until that's in check, don't worry as much about ca and alk. Once magnesium is in check, it's much easier to balance the other 2.

scsi
08-15-2007, 04:29 AM
Well, it's been 10 days in now

I'v spent most of this time taking needless readings that showed 0's in everything bad. The rock was pretty much cured when I got it, so there shouldn't have been much chance for big Amonia or Nitrite spikes.

Seeing as how the rock had been in an established tank for 2 months, I had high hopes for beneficial Hitchhikers.


It being 10 days... I'm having the usual growing pains...... Green algae is starting to form on the glass and rock. I'm thinking I need the next natural progression, which would be snails.... maybe a shimp..... Thing is... it's only been 10 days.

I'm a firm believer in patience... I have no probs waiting 6 months before the first fish goes in ( the corals will be in place before the fish)

But, I don't like the thought of algae overcrowding. Lighting with the Aqualight Pro 150 has been tame so far, no more than 5 hours a day.... Act's on 8 hours. Lunars the rest of the time. I will increase the MH gradually.

Is it too soon to add some "hardy" species at this point or should I wait another couple of weeks? I don't think the algae growth thus far is Diatom related. I only say this because the RO/DI unit has passed less the 150G of water through it. I know it's near the end of it's life for being able to filter silicates and silicic acid.

Amonia, Nitrites, Nitrates undetectable
Phosphate .025
PH 8.5
Salinity 1.023
Temp 76
CA 475
KA 100

marie
08-15-2007, 04:44 AM
If your not getting any ammonia/nitrite readings then there is no reason why you can't add some snails.
I would avoid getting hermit crabs and shrimp for a little longer they can eat up your worms before they have a chance to migrate into the sand bed and the more life you have in the sand the better

scsi
08-15-2007, 05:17 AM
Ummmm.....
that's a good thought Marie..........
I never thought about the possible migration of the worms from the rock to the sand............ makes perfect sense though........

Maybe go to Edmonton this weekend for snails :)

scsi
08-19-2007, 05:46 PM
Ran into Edmonton this weekend to pick up more salt for my Aquarium. I also was looking at getting some snails or maybe a hermit crab to help with the Algae that's starting to sprout up in the tank.

At AI, I was talking with the guy there about the pros and cons of snails and such and I mentioned that I'd sure love to have a Sea Hare (Aplysia californica) I almost fell over when he said he had one. Natrually, I took it and rushed it home. 2 and a half hours through a wicked thunderstorm. Spent 2 hours easing him into my tank.

He went to work right away. I woke up this morning and half of my rock had been scoured clean and he was attacking the algae on the sand bed now. I think I'm going to like my first addition to the tank. Pics to follow

Temp 78F
Salinity 1.025
Amonia, Nitite, Nitrate Undetectable
PO negligible
CA 460
KH 110
PH 8.5

scsi
08-19-2007, 10:26 PM
Couple of pics of "Doug" my new Sea Hare

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/brijaco/IMG_0362.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/brijaco/IMG_0363.jpg

scsi
08-19-2007, 11:21 PM
going to try a before and after progression of how "Doug" is doing with the GHA in my tank.....
Here's the before shots taken 5PM Aug 19th
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/brijaco/IMG_0366.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/brijaco/IMG_0365.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/brijaco/IMG_0364.jpg

I'll update on a daily basis. Hope this might help anyone else that has GHA probs