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Salmon King
05-05-2007, 10:17 PM
I read there is a new strain of ich that is going around in the hobby on the internet.It kills fish in 24 to 48 hrs and is copper resistant.Simptons are larger looking ich followed by a slime covering of the fish.The only known treatment is quinine sulfate.I have not found anybody that sells it yet.

05-05-2007, 10:55 PM
where did you read this? links? anyone else heard of it?

Salmon King
05-06-2007, 05:52 AM
It/s listed through google under tropical saltwater fish disease.

05-06-2007, 06:06 AM
That link doesn't work.

And quinine sulfate is simply a variation of the oldest of old remedies. Heck the British colonialists used quinine to treat malaria in the days of the British East India Company. Quinine is the "tonic" in tonic water (yes, the same stuff Canada Dry makes). The Brits mixed it with gin to make it more palatable - hence we have "gin and tonic".

Salmon King
05-06-2007, 06:16 AM
It/s under www.nationalfishpharm.com

05-06-2007, 06:25 AM
i can't say i trust that source. THEY're the ones selling the product to "cure" it. Actually to be completely honest, as a rule of thumb, i don't really trust any manufacturer. especially when their info is unfounded and unsupported. here check this out... this quotation is from their site...

"Quinine Sulfate is the only magic drug we know of that will get rid of this strain of Crypto."

ha. seriously? funny how they're the only ones who have ever heard of it and no one else...

OH and before i forget, here's a little tid bit off of http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/ichparasiticdiseases/a/aa_cryptocaryon.htm

"Although copper is very effective on Oodinium, and it works well to eliminate crypto organisms in their free-swimming tomite stage, it is not as effective on the Cryptocaryon trophonts that burrow deeply into the tissues of fish. A combination of freshwater and formalin treatments adminstered by means of dips, baths, and prolonged treatment over a period of time in a QT is recommended."

note: the cryptocaryon they are referring to is obviously "ich"

Salmon King
05-06-2007, 06:42 AM
I totally agree with that method but it/s hard when you have a 250gal.tank with liverock to dip them.I think the lesson is to quaratine every new fish 3 weeks or longer where it/s easyer to try different things.One thing about this hobby nothing is written in stone.

05-06-2007, 07:05 AM
hahaha "nothing is written in stone" that is true! lol.

actually im just sort of getting over my own ich outbreak... lost all my fish (four of them). all my fault though really, didn't bother QTing any of them. Im an idiot for that. but anyways, yeah 3 weeks or more. definitely. damn i miss my foxface.:sad: prevention really is the best "cure"