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Deathstar
03-23-2006, 04:42 AM
Hi Guys,

Would a Puffer and a Loin get along?

Thanks,

Eric

Sushiman
03-23-2006, 06:33 AM
Not an ideal combo....Lion may be picked to death.

Pan
03-23-2006, 10:57 AM
I dunno, depends if the loin is tender or not :)

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 02:11 PM
What is a good combo? I was looking at a Toby puffer and a dwarf Loin. My tank is going to be 50-65G.

Thanks,

Eric

Sushiman
03-23-2006, 03:37 PM
You may have something there as Tobies (generally) are much less homicidal than some of their cousins. Tank size sounds OK, filter heavy though as Tobies can be messy eaters.

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 03:43 PM
You may have something there as Tobies (generally) are much less homicidal than some of their cousins. Tank size sounds OK, filter heavy though as Tobies can be messy eaters.


Thanks for the info Sushiman:mrgreen:

What would be a good fish to have with this guy? I was thinking of One more here is my list (Dwarf/Zebra Lionfish, Undulate Triggerfish, Marine Betta, Wrasse, or a snowflake Eel). Can I have any inverts in the same tank with him? I was thinking of (a Linckia Sea Star or a Spiny Blue Lobster)

Thanks for the help.

Eric

SJSobczyk
03-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Eric,

I think a dwarf lionfish and a snowflake eel would do pretty well in that size of tank. The snowflake eel may get to be a reasonable size but they arent active besides night time and when they get fed. Make sure you have a good skimmer as they can produce a fair amount of waste.

Steve

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 04:17 PM
Eric,

I think a dwarf lionfish and a snowflake eel would do pretty well in that size of tank. The snowflake eel may get to be a reasonable size but they arent active besides night time and when they get fed. Make sure you have a good skimmer as they can produce a fair amount of waste.

Steve

Thanks for the input steve.

I kind of want the puffer. How about the puffer and the dwarf lionfish or the puffer and the snowflake?

Thanks,

Eric

Skimmer Juice
03-23-2006, 04:20 PM
I would not put a blue spiny in a 50g they get huge.You would need atleast a 150g unless you got a small one and had a plan to move it when it gets big..As for the fish I have a dogface puffer and a leaf lip grouper(clown grouper) and they get along great.Hope this helps.

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 04:41 PM
I would not put a blue spiny in a 50g they get huge.You would need atleast a 150g unless you got a small one and had a plan to move it when it gets big..As for the fish I have a dogface puffer and a leaf lip grouper(clown grouper) and they get along great.Hope this helps.

I will hold off on the blue spiny. I would love to get a 150 but I think the biggest I can get in my place is a 50G. So I want to find some options for a 50G.

Thanks for the help.

Eric

SJSobczyk
03-23-2006, 04:58 PM
Eric,

You can try this combo:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=250

with:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=230
or
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=225

Any one of the above should work with an eel as well.

Steve

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 05:10 PM
Eric,

You can try this combo:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=250

with:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=230
or
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=225

Any one of the above should work with an eel as well.

Steve

Thanks Steve,

That is what I was hoping for a Toby puffer and a dwarf lion. Do you think a Linckia Sea Star would do ok with those fish? Could I get one more fish in my 50G or is that too much?

Thanks,

Eric

SJSobczyk
03-23-2006, 05:26 PM
I would be worried about the puffer with any cleaning crew. I dont think i would recommend it.

If i were you i would add both at the same time, then give it a couple of weeks and see how your parameters are. You will have to keep up with regular water changes and keeping detrius at a minimum.

Steve

Deathstar
03-23-2006, 05:37 PM
I would be worried about the puffer with any cleaning crew. I dont think i would recommend it.

If i were you i would add both at the same time, then give it a couple of weeks and see how your parameters are. You will have to keep up with regular water changes and keeping detrius at a minimum.

Steve

I had one before he did not seem to bug my sea star but he ate a few hermits, snails and a shrimp. I had to get rid of him becuase he was picking on my clown. I don't have a clown any more and will not have any inverts.

I was thinking of a Linckia Sea Star becuse they are toxic and most fish will not eat them.

One other question how do you move a puffer and a loin ( I think a net would not be the best idea)?

Eric

Sushiman
03-23-2006, 11:10 PM
Assume the Undulated Trigger will slaughter them all! This is a "Bad Boy" among triggers.
Don't totally rule out a clean-up crew, I have very large hermits, serpent stars & knobby sea cucumbers holding their own against a Lunare Wrasse, Clown Trigger, Panther Grouper, Zebra Moray & Snowflake Moray.
I have made sure that there are plenty of shells of appropriate size too.
Just think mean!

i have crabs
03-24-2006, 01:11 AM
i had a saddled toby a snowflake and a lion together with no problems but the loin was a lot larger than the toby,the toby lives with a couple cardinals and has never picked at any fins,while a had a fingerprint toby that picked at everyones fins so it might just depend on the fishs personality wether you would have any issues or not.

Deathstar
03-24-2006, 04:09 AM
I picked up the Toby tonight and a Linckia Sea Star. I am going to look for a Lion this weekend.

A few Lion questions;

How do you move them? I hear they only eat live food is that true? What type of live should I buy for them?

If I don't get a Loin what other fish would go good with my Puffer and my star?

Thanks for you help.

Eric.