Asmodeus's 12 gal JBJ DX

[Skimmerking]

Well I took the plunge and soon to be getting my Nano 12 gal JBJ DX Model.
Going to run a Aqua clear 30 for a HOB refugium and have the heaterin there too along with some macro algae.
The Lighting will be 48 W of 2x 24 w PC. I hve been reading on the No sandbed. and i think that i will go with the sand bed ma ye 2" of sand for the gobies to burrow in.

Another topic Tammy my betterhalf wants to have sea horses in the tank. Can i still with corals in there. But i know you can;t have to much flow tho can you have gobies , clowns .cleaners, or blood shrimp in a tank with Sea horses..

What are people running for flow in a 12 gal nano anyways.

Stay tuned for pic's when i get it....:mrgreen:

[studsrsx]

O....great now i'm gonna have to come over drool all over your nano. Let me know when you get it up and running.

[Skimmerking]

LOL I'm hoping to get the nano, by next week. Picked up a fussion skimmer for the tank..

Here is the big Skimmer for the Nano:mrgreen:

http://nanotuners.nanocustoms.com/nanotuners/images/fission.jpg

Drop over man come see my big Koran, And if you have a tank set up soon, I may have some fish for ya to put in..


mike

[Beverly]

A 12g is too small for most SH species. I'd pass on them and just do corals, etc.

[Skimmerking]

Well that is what i thought about too Bev the Sea horse thing you can't have very much flow in the tank Right.

So I'm not going to do it ...

[Beverly]

Yeah, SHs need pretty low flow.

[Skimmerking]

Hey there Bev i was looking at the nano fish to get for the tank. This is what i have comes up with..

pair of hi fin gobies
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20050901185148/www.liveaquaria.com/images/products/bigimage/lg_70938.jpg



or
two spot gobies
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20040331211130/www.liveaquaria.com/images/products/large/pw71536twospot_goby.jpg

For shrimp I will go with 2 of them
BLood shrimp
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20050608153513/www.liveaquaria.com/images/products/large/p_78465.jpg

sexy shrimp i will do 4 of them
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20051215231801/www.liveaquaria.com/images/products/bigimage/lg_90056.jpg



once the tank is sorted out and going good i will be housing SPS
Milli, Acros,


With that the tank will have a HOb Refugium made out of a Aquaclear30 or a 500.


But this is over time and i will be using my own water from the 170 gal and rock from there too ,

[OCDP]

I like your fish choices... I think any of them would be pretty cool. I really like the neon gobies myself. The two spot gobies are very cool, very unique looking.. but their diet seems a little too "iffy" to me.... but hey, it's YOUR tank! :wink:

Looking forward to seeing this progress :mrgreen:

[Skimmerking]

Thanks for the kind words Scott ,But why iffy for their diets please explain.. would like to hear about it.

[Skimmerking]

Well here are some of the pictures of the Nano Hope yuou like it.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano009.jpg



http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano006.jpg

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Twin spot gobies are very tricky to switch over to frzn mysis. Most never do & 12g will not have enough live foods & other stuff for them to sift out. They're our favourite fish but they also killed over $100 worth of colourful plate & long tentacle plate corals by burying them with sand while we were out. Like many sandsifters, they'll scoop out a mouth full of sand & drop it where-ever & Murphy's Law states that it must fall on whatever will cost you the most $.

JME,

Anthony

[Skimmerking]

A few more
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano005.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano004.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano002.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/revhtree/nano001.jpg

HOpe tp get the skimmer this week or tomorrow, probably Monday..

[mr_alberta]

Twin Spot gobies eat mainly sand bed fauna. As a result, you need a fairly large and active sandbed to keep them well fed. Unfortunately you won't be able to do that in a 12G JBJ.

I should also note that I don't think you should add a Coral Banded shrimp. As they get larger they will most likely go after your other shrimp (especially the smaller sexy shrimp) and your small fish.

I think a pair of Rainfordi or Hector gobies would look nice in that tank. Another thing to try is a pistol shrimp/goby pair or a yellow headed jawfish species tank.

[Skimmerking]

Ok thanks Scott and Harvey. Cancell those ones out then..

[OCDP]

That's a nice looking nano!

And my aplogies for the "iffy" part on their diet. I didn't read the Liveaquaria page properly! Oops... haha, I'm bad for that.

I thought it said it should be fed all live foods, and not frozen. Hence why I said their diet seems "iffy"

My mistake! Sorry about that

*edit* haha, and in the end I was still somewhat right, haha go figure...

[Skimmerking]

NO problem, I thinking of running my 20 gal as a sump Go figure. May be i will hook up my Barracuda pump on for a return or a Close loop. :mrgreen:

Probably have my max i jet 1200 for a return pump..lol. And May be I should put this one into the wall

[Beverly]

Michael,

With the gobies, sounds like you need a male/female pair so they don't fight. Might be hard to distinguish male from female in all species you picked, though I'm no expert. Also, the two spot goby grows to 3" while the other two only grow to 2". Personally, I would go with only one (not a pair) of the 2" species, and perhaps get a mid-water swimming fish, though I don't know what to recommend in that regard.

Also, DO NOT get a coral banded shrimp! They are predators!!!! Especially in a small tank like yours.

Plus, only go with one species of shrimp, either one blood or four sexy. Or two blood shrimp if you only go with one goby and no other fish.

Try to keep your bioload to a minimum and you won't have cyano or other nuisance algae problems down the road.

Kind of a stick in the mud, aren't I :wink: Sorry :wink:

[Skimmerking]

No by all means Bev you are not a stick in the mud. This is why i posted what i'm doing for this nano. Cause i dont have any idea what to put in there. If it's a big tank well then I your man in a way..:mrgreen:.

As for the Shrimp I meant that i will have one or the other not all of them.:idea:. The free swimming ones i thought about is i very a runt Green chromis that i hve in my 170 gal its about 1
" if that and haven't grown since my 62 gal tank. Ad it should do good in there will see what happens. The chromis is realy easy to catch due to it eats out of my hand and lets me touch him/her..

thanks for the advice and keep the posts coming..

Michael,

With the gobies, sounds like you need a male/female pair so they don't fight. Might be hard to distinguish male from female in all species you picked, though I'm no expert. Also, the two spot goby grows to 3" while the other two only grow to 2". Personally, I would go with only one (not a pair) of the 2" species, and perhaps get a mid-water swimming fish, though I don't know what to recommend in that regard.

Also, DO NOT get a coral banded shrimp! They are predators!!!! Especially in a small tank like yours.

Plus, only go with one species of shrimp, either one blood or four sexy. Or two blood shrimp if you only go with one goby and no other fish.

Try to keep your bioload to a minimum and you won't have cyano or other nuisance algae problems down the road.

Kind of a stick in the mud, aren't I :wink: Sorry :wink:

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Twin spots I find are usually sold in pairs anyways. I find that they don't do well alone & its very obvious once they pair up. They're so cute (if fish had hands, these would be holding hands).

[OCDP]

ah man, all this goby talk, makes me wish I put some kind of cool goby pair in my tank like these guys... they are pretty cool looking fish. I love my Yellow Watchman.. he's a character alright...but I like fish that have cool colours and just overall neat markings on the body. But that could be another option for you Mike... a Yellow Watchman with a pistol shrimp.. I think it'd be pretty entertaining!

[Skimmerking]

Thanks Scott If I have to get a bigger nano its your fault...:smile:

[Skimmerking]

Well I got the Skimmer today, first thing this morning. Problem is i can't take any pic's due to the camera being at work..
Doug where is your camera

[Skimmerking]

Well here are a couple of shots from my Web cam of the skimmer and its actual size..


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/asmodeus338/12%20gal%20nano%20SPS/skimmer.jpghttp://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/asmodeus338/12%20gal%20nano%20SPS/skimmerinhand.jpg