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danny zubot
02-15-2006, 08:31 PM
It might be pointless to get an ID on this guy because I haven't seem him for a few days, but it would still be nice to know.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/3214dannyzubot/Reef%20pics/IMGP0064.jpg

tbone
02-15-2006, 08:32 PM
It might be pointless to get an ID on this guy because I haven't seem him for a few days, but it would still be nice to know.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/3214dannyzubot/Reef%20pics/IMGP0064.jpg


looks like some type of cucumber. looks pretty cool tho.

SJSobczyk
02-15-2006, 08:37 PM
Nice colours. I say some kind of nudibranch, have to give me a bit to narrow it down.

Steve

danny zubot
02-15-2006, 08:38 PM
It is cool. I bought it for 9 bucks as a nudibranch, they said it eats sponges, which I have lots of. I hope to see it again soon.

SJSobczyk
02-15-2006, 08:45 PM
I dont know about the exact name, but it does look like they eat sponges.

http://www.seaslugforum.net/display.cfm?id=14140

A LFS actually tells the truth!

Steve

OCDP
02-15-2006, 09:49 PM
Too cool.. love the colours. Where'd you pick it up from?

muck
02-15-2006, 10:05 PM
Chromodoris westraliensis would be my guess.

http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=chrowest

Delphinus
02-15-2006, 10:07 PM
Nudibranchs and sea slugs are so cool, but unfortunately they are such highly specialized feeders.

http://www.seaslugforum.net (http://www.seaslugforum.net/) is apparently a good resource for sea slugs and nudibranches and their relatives..

Xtasia
02-15-2006, 11:18 PM
At REEFBC, We had a wonderful speaker (David Behrens) on Nudibranches. Nudis eat different things depending on their coloration, type etc...

He wrote a book that you can get if you want to find out more about them.

http://slugsite.us/bow/bow482bk.htm

kari
02-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Ok, my guess is going to this one,
http://www.seaslugforum.net/factsheet.cfm?base=hypscarn
only because I can't take clicking on any more nudi pics. Man there's been some big time nudi clasification going on.

Van down by the river
02-16-2006, 01:05 AM
Thanks Ivy (Xtasia),

A better Link for David's book is:
http://www.seachallengers.com/index.cfm?catID=11&itemID=400

or
https://www.oceanaquatics.com/view_product.php?product=NUDO5OVM35

Nudibranchs and Sea Snails - Helmut Debelius
http://www.seachallengers.com/index.cfm?catID=3&itemID=124
This book is one of the most detailed and comprehensive available. There is some info on diet etc. but mostly this is a identification book with details more on behavior and location of habitat.

1001 Nudibranchs - Neville Colemann
http://www.seachallengers.com/index.cfm?catID=3&itemID=228
Another great ID book.

Although difficult to see the top of the Nudibranch this would be either Chromodoris annae , Chromodoris magnifica or Chromodoris elisabethina.
As it appears from the side I am leaning toward Chromodoris magnifica.
This species is both commonly imported (unfortunately) but also occurs in an area your local store most likely purchases from. The Chromodoris westraliensis occurs in Australia and most likely would not be exported with any frequency.

Now for the pot stirring part of my post.......
I find it disappointing that this was purchased by a senior member (FTOTM Committee) of Canreef.
The post and purchase demonstrate classic beginner blunders of Buy/Try/Die/Replace or "buy now, figure out if I can keep it later". Many aquarist and beginners look to this site for advice and model after the more experienced aquarists.

How are they supposed to become conscious and successful aquarists when this is the examples laid before them?

It is cool. I bought it for 9 bucks as a Nudibranch, they said it eats sponges, which I have lots of. I hope to see it again soon.

When you bought this item you voted with your dollars. You told the store that "It's okay to sell me things that I can't keep and will die".

Most, if not all experienced aquarists consider Nudibranchs as animals that should not be imported, period. This animal will die a slow, starving death in your aquarium.

I don't know about the exact name, but it does look like they eat sponges.
A LFS actually tells the truth!

If a statement is incomplete does it make it all true?
They do eat sponges, however they are most often specific to particular sponges and will not eat all species. If an aquarist was lucky enough to have the correct sponge, it is most likely that the Nudibranch would consume the sponge faster than the sponge could regenerate.

Bottom line is:
You lost$9 and doomed an animal.
The Nudibranch lost it's life.
The store made money.

And the winner is?..........

sumpfinfishe
02-16-2006, 04:05 AM
Van down by the river wrote:
Now for the pot stirring part of my post.......
I find it disappointing that this was purchased by a senior member (FTOTM Committee) of Canreef.
The post and purchase demonstrate classic beginner blunders of Buy/Try/Die/Replace or "buy now, figure out if I can keep it later". Many aquarist and beginners look to this site for advice and model after the more experienced aquarists.
How are they supposed to become conscious and successful aquarists when this is the examples laid before them?


Well I guess LFS's should demonstrate the same practices when they order there fish and corals. I heard that a LFS here in the lower mainland was ordering, stocking, and selling corals that were loosing all color pigments (except brown) due to poor housekeeping. I thought I heard it was in regards to not replacing a few old metal halide bulbs on some of there holding tanks.

So maybe we need to not only think about what livestock we purchase, but also who we purchase it from.

danny zubot
02-16-2006, 02:15 PM
Van, you are right.

I ask you though, have you never bought anything under the same circumstances as me? Who hasn't?

It was a calulated buy based on the advice given. If over 50 years ago nobody ever imported rare marine fish, we would not have this hobby today. We owe the pioneers of the past half a century our gratitude for their trial and error. Without it, we wouldn't have developed methods and technology to keeps these creatures alive in our homes.

I'm not saying I'll discover how to keep nudi's long term, but you can't condemn me for trying.