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adidas
08-08-2005, 06:21 PM
my juvi blue tang has a couple grey patches by his face..and he is twitching... wasnt grey last night.. any ideas what it is? hopefully not velvet or something :eek:
Jason McK
08-08-2005, 06:48 PM
It could be any number of things from being stressed out being in a 20G tank.
Ultimately it was a foolish Idea to put a Tang of any size in a 20G. So I have little sympathy for our plite, but all the sympathy in the world for the inhabitants of your tank.
Jason
Okay I have to cut in and say something..
These tangs are the size of toonies, maybe SLIGHTLY larger...
Therefore, a tang in a 20g tank ( a tang of THAT size ) will live happily and fine, it has the swimming room it needs. The fish fits in the tank, and he has plans to remove the fish and put into a larger system in the future.
A canreefer is asking for help , and because you just right off the bat assume he's a criminal for doing what he did, you wont help him.
It's sad...
adidas
08-08-2005, 06:52 PM
It could be any number of things from being stressed out being in a 20G tank.
Ultimately it was a foolish Idea to put a Tang of any size in a 20G. So I have little sympathy for our plite, but all the sympathy in the world for the inhabitants of your tank.
Jason
blah blah blah, I didn't ask for more lectures. thanks.
rickjames
08-08-2005, 06:58 PM
Sounds like the fish is stressed, as has been mentioned could be the fact that it is in a 20G tank (which at the VERY LEAST is contributing to the problem), or could be a water quality thing. How are N02/N03/NH4 levels? Maybe a lack of oxygen too, are you running a skimmer on the tank?
I won't give you a lecture, but having that tang regardless of size in that tank is probably the root cause of your problem.
Good luck.
Willow
08-08-2005, 06:59 PM
It could be any number of things from being stressed out being in a 20G tank.
Ultimately it was a foolish Idea to put a Tang of any size in a 20G. So I have little sympathy for our plite, but all the sympathy in the world for the inhabitants of your tank.
Jason
blah blah blah, I didn't ask for more lectures. thanks.
why are you posting then, what possible reaction did you think this would have?
Jason McK
08-08-2005, 07:03 PM
I'm sorry I don't agree
Tangs are native to open waters and fast moving currents. Regardless of size their minimum requirements should not be ignored as even a small tang has the instinctive traits of an adult.
Yes I'm being a little harsh, but Adidas knows better but went ahead anyway. He was also warned during his first post. Now the fish is paying for his lack of patience. adidas has plans for a bigger tank. Why not wait, why not keep the 120 he had and set it up as soon as he moved so he could get his big fish sooner.
I sure hope this fish pulls through and makes it to the big tank some day.
But what happens if it doesn't make it. Maybe an Achilles Tang or a Naso
Jason
It's funny the whole time you rant on about how he shouldn't have this fish, and how concerened you are for it's life, yet you still offer no advice or help.....
I still find this all sad.
And if I did have advice and information to provide, I would.. I just have no experience with velvet.. or signs of it, etc.
Jason McK
08-08-2005, 07:10 PM
Yes But he has already been told to take the fish back.
and he had no intesion of following that advise. In my mind the only advise that would help the fish at all
J
adidas
08-08-2005, 07:14 PM
It could be any number of things from being stressed out being in a 20G tank.
Ultimately it was a foolish Idea to put a Tang of any size in a 20G. So I have little sympathy for our plite, but all the sympathy in the world for the inhabitants of your tank.
Jason
blah blah blah, I didn't ask for more lectures. thanks.
why are you posting then, what possible reaction did you think this would have?
what reaction? how about an answer to my question and not sounding like a broken record?
danny zubot
08-08-2005, 07:15 PM
My advice would be lend the fish to someone with a large tank until you get your bigger tank. That way you ensure it's survival. I'd be shocked if it lived in you 20 gallon tank until the new tank is setup and cycled.
Bahh, sorry I am of no help to your problem.
Hope the fish pulls through
Jason McK
08-08-2005, 07:19 PM
Do you want advise on how to help the fish?
Well it's likely a stress issue. How do we eliminate the stress. Find a home for the fish that is more suited to it's requirement.
J
trilinearmipmap
08-08-2005, 07:20 PM
My advice would be.
1. Check all parameters: temperature, salinity, pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate.
2. Double check the salinity (use a refractometer if you can borrow one) and the pH and temperature using someone else's meter - one time my temp in a FW tank was off by 6 degrees due to measurement error.
3. Do water changes for example 20% daily for several days, or some similar amount of water changes.
4. Don't medicate.
5. Optimize your feeding, make sure he has Nori available 24/7, offer also frozen mysis as well as flake.
I kept a Yellow Tang in a 20 gallon quarantine tank, after 3 or 4 weeks it wasn't doing well at all, his health picked up just fine when he went into my 120. I just couldn't keep up with the amount of waste product he produced in a small 20 gallon tank.
Good luck.
Invigor
08-08-2005, 08:07 PM
Find a home for the fish that is more suited to it's requirement.
yea, back in the ocean where it belongs.
try feeding it well, if it doesn't like eating, try soaking the food in selcon or garlic extract. the best way to heal a fish is to feed it :D
also provide ample cover or a place to hide to reduce stress, keep the lights dim, etc.
and don't be discouraged by the "OMG YOU HAVE A TANG IN A 20GALLON YOU'RE INSANE!!!". one of the healthiest tangs I've ever seen in captivity lives in a 29 gal tank
adidas
08-09-2005, 01:16 AM
Find a home for the fish that is more suited to it's requirement.
yea, back in the ocean where it belongs.
try feeding it well, if it doesn't like eating, try soaking the food in selcon or garlic extract. the best way to heal a fish is to feed it :D
also provide ample cover or a place to hide to reduce stress, keep the lights dim, etc.
and don't be discouraged by the "OMG YOU HAVE A TANG IN A 20GALLON YOU'RE INSANE!!!". one of the healthiest tangs I've ever seen in captivity lives in a 29 gal tank
thanks for the help :)
adidas
08-09-2005, 01:17 AM
My advice would be.
1. Check all parameters: temperature, salinity, pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate.
2. Double check the salinity (use a refractometer if you can borrow one) and the pH and temperature using someone else's meter - one time my temp in a FW tank was off by 6 degrees due to measurement error.
3. Do water changes for example 20% daily for several days, or some similar amount of water changes.
4. Don't medicate.
5. Optimize your feeding, make sure he has Nori available 24/7, offer also frozen mysis as well as flake.
I kept a Yellow Tang in a 20 gallon quarantine tank, after 3 or 4 weeks it wasn't doing well at all, his health picked up just fine when he went into my 120. I just couldn't keep up with the amount of waste product he produced in a small 20 gallon tank.
Good luck.
Thanks!! :biggrin: :biggrin: will do that all and see what happens.
ref leppard
08-09-2005, 04:40 AM
Guess what ! I got one PowderBlue Tang ,4 in living in a 33gal since Jan 30 2005.He lives with his buddy(neon goby)Loves eating flakes ,not to crazy on frozen foods. :mrgreen:
naesco
08-17-2005, 05:48 AM
I too am disappointed.
Adidas should know better.
Give the fish to someone with a tank that can accommodate a tang.
adidas
08-17-2005, 05:20 PM
I too am disappointed.
Adidas should know better.
Give the fish to someone with a tank that can accommodate a tang.
my tang is doing ok..... he is tiny, he will be fine for another month til i get a new tank.
why should I give him away? I paid for him, i'm keeping him.
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