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dominik_n
06-08-2005, 02:57 AM
It is some kind of macro but I can't find any info on it. It is almost impossible to remove without making big mess, I tried few times but it seems to make things worse as it spreads to other places. My kole tang picks on it from time to time but not enough to make any difference. Is there any other fish/crab/snail that would eat it?

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/1770macro2.jpg
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/1770macro3-med.jpg
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/1770macro1-med.jpg

christyf5
06-08-2005, 03:00 AM
Hello bryopsis!

http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/main_pages/faq_algae.htm

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-06/bcap/feature/

Good luck!

Christy :)

dominik_n
06-08-2005, 03:24 AM
I had bryopsis before and I know what it looks like, but this is something else, it covers the rock in the same way as Caulerpa and it even has white roots

dominik_n
06-08-2005, 03:48 AM
Here is better pic
http://www.canreef.com/photopost/data/500/1770macro4-med.jpg

fishface
06-08-2005, 03:51 AM
uggh! i think i have bryopsis!! :evil: i just never knew what it was called...seems very difficult to get rid of...

Troy F
06-08-2005, 04:04 AM
Darren just won a major victory with this stuff. If he doesn't see this thread I'll PM him. He got some advice from Anthony Calfo that worked wonders for him. I think the advice was to spike the pH with washing soda but my memeroy is a little soft.

Beermaster
06-08-2005, 06:46 AM
Damnit, i have that stuff growing all over the place in my tank


damnit, damnit, damnit, damnit

IslandReefer
06-08-2005, 11:05 AM
My foxface thinks its green buttered popcorn :mrgreen:

DJ88
06-08-2005, 11:54 PM
Dominik,

I don't think it is bryopsis. Too fluffy for that stuff. As well Bryopsis doesn't form runners like this stuff you have in the pictures. I have had loads of experience with bryopsis :rolleyes: and this isn't it IMO.

I don't know that it will work for you but what I did to get rid of my algae problem was by raising the pH of my tank to 8.6 for about 3-4 weeks.

You would HAVE to use a pH meter in this case as you want to carefully monitor the pH as you do this. Too high and you can have a mess on your hands.

To raise the pH you can do the following. Take baking soda and bake it in the oven (300 deg F, 1 hour in a normal oven). You then use it by mixing it in with RO/DI water and pour it into your tank. I used to mix 2Tbsp of soda with 4 cups of RO/DI and pour 1/3 in at a time so I didn't have a huge pH spike. Start slow with this stuff and get used to it. Don't over do it.

For a more concrete identification and possible predators you may like to go ask Anthony Calfo on Reef Central. He has his own forum there and is very approachable.

For removal by hand one thing you can do is get some very narrow diameter hard acrylic tubing , 1/4" or so and set up a siphon and suck the stuff out when you do a water change. GEt as much out as you can and do immediate water changes.

hth. sorry I couldn't help more.

Cheers!

dominik_n
06-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Thanks for the info, I didn't think it was Bryopsis either. I will try the baking soda method, ph spike shouldn't be a problem as I have PinPoint ph monitor.

fishface
06-09-2005, 12:51 AM
Take baking soda and bake it in the oven (300 deg F, 1 hour in a normal oven).
hey Darren, what's the purpose of baking the baking soda if you don't mind me askin'? also, the rise in pH won't be detrimental to livestock if it's done slowly? correct?

thanks,

darryl byopsis :mrgreen:

christyf5
06-09-2005, 01:04 AM
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/april2004/chem.htm

Beverly
06-09-2005, 01:08 AM
Baking soda will lower pH. Washing soda will raise pH.

The Reef Chemistry Calculator to help determine how much to add:

http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html

Aquarium System Volume Calculator to better determine the actual water volume in your system:

http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/volcalc.html

As well as...

High pH: Causes and Cures:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.htm

Low pH: Causes and Cures:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/index.htm

Dominik,

That macroalgae almost looks like some kind of caulerpa, especially if it is invasive.

DJ88
06-09-2005, 02:21 AM
BAKED Baking soda will RAISE pH.. But do it carefully. Also keep an eye on all otehr parameters. Alk, Ca, Salinity. If any start getting out of whack back off.

Algae does NOT seem to do well in higher pH's. Don't go too high tho. 8.6 MAX

Baking the Baking soda changes it chemically so it is has the same chemical properties as washing soda. But it purer as it is food grade and for human consumption and not just for washing your clothes.

I used washing soda but the problem is there is some perfumes or something in it. I did end up with a few bubbles here and there but it worked.

It isn't detrimental if you do it slowly.

The amounts I used were after starting REALLY slow and bumping up the amounts until I was able to use just a bit of soda and RO to do what I needed. I made up four cups or so and used it over the whole day to keep the pH up. This along with Kalk dosing seemed to work wonders. :)

Beverly
06-09-2005, 02:46 AM
Geez, I did not explain myself very well :redface:

Washing soda bought from the store does indeed have additives detrimental to a reef. The washing soda I was talking about is made by BAKING baking soda as described above.

Sorry for the confusion.