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1bigfish
08-11-2017, 10:05 PM
Who is using aqua forest reef salt and what is your thoughts about it?

kyl
08-11-2017, 10:13 PM
I switched from reef crystals, overall I'm happy:

Alk is pretty consistent between batches, hovering around 7.7-8, not the lottery that RC seemed to be. Boxes seem more readily available too, but their buckets are an odd size and the lid is kind of a pain to remove. There's also far less sludge/residue after mixing and storing it for a couple days, if that matters.

Some people are stating they've had cyano / dinoflagellate issues after switching, not entirely sure what would be causing that though.

spedly
08-11-2017, 10:14 PM
I've been using it for a couple of years. I really like it.

albert_dao
08-11-2017, 10:19 PM
I switched from reef crystals, overall I'm happy:

Alk is pretty consistent between batches, hovering around 7.7-8, not the lottery that RC seemed to be. Boxes seem more readily available too, but their buckets are an odd size and the lid is kind of a pain to remove. There's also far less sludge/residue after mixing and storing it for a couple days, if that matters.

Some people are stating they've had cyano / dinoflagellate issues after switching, not entirely sure what would be causing that though.

You can get cyano/dinos from trace element imbalances. I'm not saying it's endemic to the salt, but it's something that happens.

JamRobo
08-11-2017, 10:44 PM
Ive switched to af reef salt and had major cyano and dino issues. 2 water changes with instant ocean and dinos / cyano is gone and my corals arnt getting smothered anymore....

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1bigfish
08-11-2017, 10:57 PM
I have been reading of a few people having diatom cyano problems with using aqua forest reef salt also. I just picked up 2 pails after reading a bunch of great reviews, and am now second guessing my choice.

DKoKoMan
08-12-2017, 01:00 AM
Ive switched to af reef salt and had major cyano and dino issues. 2 water changes with instant ocean and dinos / cyano is gone and my corals arnt getting smothered anymore....

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I'm with you on the issues. Here is to hoping that by switching back to RC from AF that I get rid of the slime and my corals stop getting smothered.

DKoKoMan
08-12-2017, 01:02 AM
I have been reading of a few people having diatom cyano problems with using aqua forest reef salt also. I just picked up 2 pails after reading a bunch of great reviews, and am now second guessing my choice.

That is exactly what I did, started nice and slow and wham-o got purple brown slime in LR. Then it got worse and dinoflagellates started and stringy goo was everywhere. I ended up losing 4 coral frags, a colony and some I'm not sure will pull through. May not be the same for everyone but It was very disheartening for me and not worth the lower parameters.

1bigfish
08-12-2017, 02:16 AM
That sounds awful....sorry for the loss. Nothing worse then battling Dino cyano, might just stick with RC. Maybe someone will want to trade me 2 pails of AF reef salt for RC.
Thanks for sharing your experiences everyone.

DKoKoMan
08-12-2017, 03:49 AM
That sounds awful....sorry for the loss. Nothing worse then battling Dino cyano, might just stick with RC. Maybe someone will want to trade me 2 pails of AF reef salt for RC.
Thanks for sharing your experiences everyone.

It's just like anything in this hobby, every tank responds different. I initially made the switch to AF eager as I had heard nothing but good things. Since my experience I have saw similar circumstances posted with using the AF Reef Salt so now it seems more then a coincidence.

Skimmer Juice
08-12-2017, 05:09 AM
I also ran into some issues with my dendros after switching to af reef salt . Got a white film over some of the heads ended up saving a couple lost over 25 heads . Ended up switching back to h2ocean and tank is stable again . Just going to stick with what I normally use unless a switch is %100 necessary in the future .

iceman86
08-12-2017, 06:13 AM
I've had good results with it. Are you guys that are getting the white film using the probiotic salt?

DKoKoMan
08-12-2017, 07:27 AM
I've had good results with it. Are you guys that are getting the white film using the probiotic salt?

Using AF Reef Salt and got purple / brown slimy stuff which likes to smother corals. Hit my sps the worst then Lps and Zoas. I have it somewhat under control but it gets worse when I do my water changes. I will be switching back to either RC or something else which is carried locally. For me I saw no added benefit using the AF Reef Salt although some people swear by it.

iceman86
08-12-2017, 03:35 PM
Using AF Reef Salt and got purple / brown slimy stuff which likes to smother corals. Hit my sps the worst then Lps and Zoas. I have it somewhat under control but it gets worse when I do my water changes. I will be switching back to either RC or something else which is carried locally. For me I saw no added benefit using the AF Reef Salt although some people swear by it.

That strange that it happens. I bought another pail yesterday so I hope its still good.

Willito
08-12-2017, 04:07 PM
Been using AF Sea Salt for 8 months and I am seeing cyano problem progressing as I do more frequent and larger water changes. Going to switch to a different brand once this bucket is done.

kyl
08-12-2017, 05:59 PM
Starting to wonder, if using the salt but not using the rest of their method (carbon dosing, etc), is that the real issue. That the salt is front-loaded so to speak with traces that would be otherwise consumed if doing advanced UNLS methodology. That those whom aren't, are instead having the cyano / dino problems.

DKoKoMan
08-13-2017, 12:34 AM
Starting to wonder, if using the salt but not using the rest of their method (carbon dosing, etc), is that the real issue. That the salt is front-loaded so to speak with traces that would be otherwise consumed if doing advanced UNLS methodology. That those whom aren't, are instead having the cyano / dino problems.

It could be, not sure but it hasn't worked out well for me. As of now I don't see any benefit of continuing the use of AF salt.

1bigfish
08-13-2017, 01:07 AM
I had read about probiotic salt causing cyano problems, but not the reef salt.
For those having problems I wonder if you are using any carbon dosing, bio pellets?

ReefMadness
08-13-2017, 06:48 AM
I had read about probiotic salt causing cyano problems, but not the reef salt.
For those having problems I wonder if you are using any carbon dosing, bio pellets?
i tried to use aquaforest's carbon dosing method (probio S and NP pro) and found they were just too effective. they basically drove my nutrients down to unmeasurable which obviously is far from ideal. not to mention it seems counterproductive to be carbon dosing and immediately after dosing NO3 and PO4 just to keep your corals from starving.

Cassini75
08-13-2017, 11:35 PM
What I found is my corals love af reef salt. I had some of the outbreaks too, but the af seems to be lower on ph than others so I just keep my ph/dkh in check and it all went away. been using for 4 months now or so.

devocole
08-14-2017, 01:20 AM
Just wanted to chime in that I'm confused with my cyano issue as well. My nutrient load is very low. I use Probiotic AF. If I switch salt and it goes away I'll post again.

1bigfish
08-14-2017, 02:41 AM
If you switch salts and your cyano goes away, I would be very interested to know what salt you switched to. Hope you sort out the problem.

JamRobo
08-14-2017, 04:18 AM
Instant ocean works well for me im sticking with it now as it cleared all the cyano/ dinos fast.

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DKoKoMan
08-14-2017, 09:19 AM
Instant ocean works well for me im sticking with it now as it cleared all the cyano/ dinos fast.

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Are you using plain IO or the reef crystals? I need to get rid of this $#! asap as I hate looking at this slime. I'm hoping with a few WC with new salt it goes away.

JamRobo
08-14-2017, 03:16 PM
Reef cystals. And it will go away. Best thing u can do is watee change and remove as much as possible. But in the days to follow when ot tries to come back just use a small hose and syphon it down into a filter sock in your sump then swap the sock and wash it. Do this every day till its gone. Wont take long.

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DKoKoMan
08-14-2017, 06:56 PM
Reef cystals. And it will go away. Best thing u can do is watee change and remove as much as possible. But in the days to follow when ot tries to come back just use a small hose and syphon it down into a filter sock in your sump then swap the sock and wash it. Do this every day till its gone. Wont take long.

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Ok sweet! I will give it a whirl, hopefully it takes care of the problem.

spedly
08-15-2017, 04:27 AM
These stories of weird algae and dinos with AF salt are interesting. Up until December of 2016 I was battling a neverending problem with algae. I would vacuum up gobs of it while doing water changes. I was also using AF Reef salt. I was running an Evergrow IT2080 LED fixture at the time. In the middle of December it died on me and I didn't get any new lights on it until the end of that month.

Since there were no lights on for two weeks it killed all of the algae. I put a new Evergrow IT5080 fixture as a replacement and I have not had any algae problems since then. Zippo. Nada. Barely even any crystalline for that matter. I reduced the time that the lights are on and reduced the intensity a bit but not by a lot.

I dunno. I'm not a scientist. Perhaps there is a relationship with the lights and something in the salt? I dunno. That's my experience anyways.

DKoKoMan
08-15-2017, 06:20 AM
Definitely interesting! I have an Evergrow light fixture on my Reef as well. Normally I wouldn't be so upset, except it only presented itself upon making the switch to AF. Literally within the first 2 WC (30g / 20%) it started forming. So what I did was did larger WC thinking I needed to flush it out, besides everything that goes sideways is usually fixed with a WC. WRONG... I just put fuel in to the fire and it got worse to the point of stringy slime covering LR and corals.

How is your tank now? Did you switch salts and to what?

spedly
08-15-2017, 07:20 AM
Definitely interesting! I have an Evergrow light fixture on my Reef as well. Normally I wouldn't be so upset, except it only presented itself upon making the switch to AF. Literally within the first 2 WC (30g / 20%) it started forming. So what I did was did larger WC thinking I needed to flush it out, besides everything that goes sideways is usually fixed with a WC. WRONG... I just put fuel in to the fire and it got worse to the point of stringy slime covering LR and corals.

How is your tank now? Did you switch salts and to what?

I'm still using AF Reef Salt exclusively. I get a little green algae on the glass but it's not bad. My live rock is pretty much algae-free.