a fun listing

[martym]

Let's have some fun with the SW people and start this thread on why is fresh water better than salt water :smile: . Lets try 5 words or less.
heres mine.

Better selection of fish

[Aquattro]

not sure if the selection is better, just bigger. I'd take 5 tangs over 40 tetras any day.

But my reason would be that FW tastes a lot better than SW.

[martym]

Is that your new method of water testing Brad? :biggrin:

[Aquattro]

nothing new about it, been using it for years. My doctor said something about ionic imbalance though, said I should switch to something called test kits. :razz:

[Aquattro]

Oh, and FW isn't as heavy as SW, for those of us that haul buckets!!

[Tarolisol]

Ok lets see

beautiful fish, pretty fish, colorful fish, CORALS,...... oh was this suppose to be for freshwater :biggrin:

[StirCrazy]

I can tell you why fresh water is better than salt with out any words.. here is 5 reasons.

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_15/resized/Anthony%20Gomez%20Entry.jpg

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_8/resized/AquariumMarch292004%20028.jpg

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_28/resized/contest1.jpg

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_34/resized/b01.jpg

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_62/resized/20040422_Front_02_large.jpg

Steve

[Zerandise]

well said steve

[Aquattro]

Steve, you need some FW turbos to get rid of that huge algae problem!!

[Richer]

Much cheaper equipment and (uh... um.....) stuff. :mrgreen:

FYI, aquariums like what Steve posted up aren't hard to achieve. I had a planted tank simliar (though not as pretty) running for awhile with 4x55watt pcs and a DIY co2 injection system with just a couple of fluval 404s for filtration. The pcs have since faded a bit since I started the tank, and I've taken my co2 injection offline. But important part was, no algae :mrgreen:

-Richer

[martym]

Very nice Steve :cool: I love the one with the rainbows.

[Delphinus]

No doubt, if I could get my FW to look like that, I'd be .... well ... um ... more satisfied with my FW tank (couldn't think of something to go with the first part of that sentence)

[Cap'n]

In regards to Steve's 5 reasons: wow, wow, wow,wow, and, um wow.


My reason: breeding
With FW you get to study mating, spawning and rearing behaviour and have the opportunity to raise fish from an egg to an adult.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Breeding? Really? With fish? Wow man, we gotta get you a woman, pronto :lol: :lol:

Best reason is cost - way cheaper. (by a factor of 10)

Especially since I have access to the local FW wholesaler. I set up a beautiful 35 hex FW with about 50-60 fish. Never a problem. Almost no cost. All the fish (including gold pearl angels & congo tetras) cost me less than 3 SW fish.

On the other hand, as soon as we set up a SW tank (after watching NEMO), we never looked at the FW tank so I sold the fish & the tank. From 7 small - medium FW to 4 medium - large SW.[/quote]

[EmilyB]

FW=Boring fish
:mrgreen:

[Cap'n]

You're not playing by the rules of the thread, Emily! And you aren't keeping the right FW fish.

IMO, both have their pros and cons, can't really say which is better. That's why I have both.

[Gujustud]

I LOVE THE FIRST PIC.


(5 works or less ;)

[StirCrazy]

FW=Boring fish
:mrgreen:

hmm I don't see how you can say that :mrgreen: lots of fish that are colorfull in FW also.

Steve

[Aquattro]

FW=Boring fish
:mrgreen:

hmm I don't see how you can say that :mrgreen: lots of fish that are colorfull in FW also.

Steve

Yup. They're called guppies. I think we should all have guppies. And we can put them in our reefs. Best of both worlds kinda. We can have SW AND have pretty little guppies. I think I'll get one this weekend. :lol:

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

I have to admit, being from Malaysian where you can catch them in ditches & rice paddies (at least when I was a little tyke), I have a weakness for common guppies. That's why for my b-day I set up my little 5g to breed them. :biggrin:

I also used to keep balloon mollies, but I converted them over to full SW over a period of several weeks. When I traded them into King Ed, the owner saw that they were selling for twice the price so he caught up a whole netful & tossed them in his SW tank, with predictable results. I wasn't there so I couldn't stop him from shocking his FW fish like that. :cry:

[StirCrazy]

Yup. They're called guppies. I think we should all have guppies. And we can put them in our reefs. Best of both worlds kinda. We can have SW AND have pretty little guppies. I think I'll get one this weekend. :lol:

LOL, guppies.. I was thinking more like rainbow fish, tetra's ect but ok :mrgreen:

Steve

[christyf5]

FW = no dinoflagellate algae :rolleyes: :razz:

[StirCrazy]

Here is the link from the compatition I got the pics from, there are plenty of other tanks and details on each tank.

http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/contest2004.htm

Steve

[Coldwater]

What would I rather have my Clown Knife or a Dragon Moray hmmmmm :confused: :neutral: THE MORAY.

Matt

[Ryan]

Six letters D-i-s-c-u-s I would take a pair of Molboro reds over a Clownfish pair anyday

[StirCrazy]

Six letters D-i-s-c-u-s I would take a pair of Molboro reds over a Clownfish pair anyday

nope sorry I used to like Discus but now I find them to be extreamply boaring. Clown fish have the personality. heck I would even take Oscars over discus now.

Steve

[Willow]

at least oscars don't need 75% water changes every day :razz:

[Ryan]

Willow Discus dont need that much water changes. If you get adults you can get away with weekly water changes if you dont intend to breed. them

Stir-crazy i dont know what u kept with your discus but in a nice planted tank they have more personality than clownfish and oscars combined. IT is when people keep them in a bare tank that they do get boring.

[Willow]

dude it was last week sometime you told me how many god awfull water changes dicus needed! now they don't?

[muck]

leave it alone willow... :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

Willow mine are still growing that is why i am doing these water changes. Adults are done growing so they dont need perfect water conditions. See what i mean. You keep the water crystal clear for optimal growth but once they are fully grown you can cut it back some.

[Rikko]

Five words:
"I can have Satanoperca leucosticta"

http://rikko.no-ip.org/geos.jpg

Find me another fish who you know is always saying "HUH??"! I dare you!

[Invigor]

my oscar always have the "i'm gonna eat you when I grow up" look on his face.. he's about 7" now

[j83]

Aren't those all fake plants? :lol: only kidding . . . very nice pics! Almost makes me miss fw - ALMOST! I'm sorry but the majority of fw fish don't do anything. It is cheaper but the extra money for sw is well worth it in my opinion.

[muck]

Those are sweet looking fish Rikko!!
Makes me want to start another tank... :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

Are those Bolivian Rams or BLue Rams in the background there? THey look like Bolivians

[Richer]

They don't look like rams to me at all. Heck, they don't even have the same species name. Rams have the species name Microgeophagus.

-Rich

[muck]

They don't look like rams to me at all. Heck, they don't even have the same species name. Rams have the species name Microgeophagus.

-Rich
Hes talking about the ones it the background and Yes they are Bolivian Rams...

[Richer]

Ah, background. Was too early in the morning :eek:

-Rich

[BCOrchidGuy]

Having kept over 70 FW tanks at one time I agree there are some pretty colourful fish. Breeding is easy with most but a challenge with others. That being said. It's easy to breed if you're just going for quantity, if you are going for quality it takes a lot of work. Keeping genetic records and keeping lines for inbreeding and for out crossing makes for more work.
Here is a friends site. He studied guppy genetics for 4 years and at one point had the most popular Guppy site for serious professional breeders in the world. His lines sold for as much as $500US a trio.
http://www.wizardinteractive.com/guppyinfo/
Here is a link to a picture of a Half Black Pastel, one of my favorites.
http://www.geocities.com/rdarmani/et3.jpg
Here is some pictures of some guppies from a show breeder, remember these are not show quality fish but may have the genetics to create a show winner.
http://ppga.tripod.com/lukesales2b.html

As for Discus they aren't as difficult to keep as most people think, they are easy to breed as well, the tough part is raising the fry sometimes the parents just don't co operate. They don't need daily water changes, weekly is fine but daily will help them grow faster. Up here (Burnaby New West) our water is to soft out of the tap for Discus so we need to add a tiny bit of R/O Right or another remineralization formula. We need the hardness so their eggs don't turn to goop. With no hardness Discus eggs are so soft that most break before the embryo is developed enough to hatch.

Doug

[button_babe]

not sure if the selection is better, just bigger. I'd take 5 tangs over 40 tetras any day.

But my reason would be that FW tastes a lot better than SW.
I agree! trying to syphon SW is kinda nasty :wink:

[button_babe]

Oh, and FW isn't as heavy as SW, for those of us that haul buckets!!
TRUE TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:razz:

[allincuddy]

syno. multipuctatus and getting them to breed. There's a challange!!!! and a reason.