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adam84
11-20-2016, 03:14 AM
Looking to get some sodium nitrate does anyone know of a good local source

Default
11-20-2016, 04:16 AM
Its restricted by natural resources canada. I think you can only buy up to 25% in canada with out a permit under the explosives act.
So you are better off making your own with ammonium nitrate, sodium hydroxide and water. They are much easier to find, ammonium nitrate can be found at hydroponics or farm supply stores. Sodium Hydroxide is found at soap supply stores.
I used to make my own rocket fuel as a kid its why I know all this.

Myka
11-20-2016, 01:45 PM
I ordered Sodium nitrate from www.thesciencecompany.com and it went through customs fine. It was correctly labeled right on the outside of the package.

adam84
11-20-2016, 01:58 PM
Thankyou I checked into them and they only ground ship and it cost 103 bucks to get it here, seems a little steep for an 8 dollar product. But it is considered a hazardous material I suppose

xlzerolx
11-20-2016, 03:35 PM
Hello,
Is this for reefing? If you are looking for a nitrate source three is theplantguy.org that has calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate and potassium nitrate. He used to sell sodium nitrate but it's not listed on his site anymore. Look under the fertilizer section

adam84
11-20-2016, 03:39 PM
It sure is, I am struggling to get nitrates for some reason and belive this to be the reason my sps are now lacking their vibrant color. Thanks for the info I will check it out.

xlzerolx
11-20-2016, 03:40 PM
No problem. Let me know how it goes. Curious to see the results
Also, are you sure it's not because of too much light?

davej
11-20-2016, 04:11 PM
A possibility for raising nitrate.

http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/potassium-nitrate-spectracide-stump-remover-dosing-steps.215730/

adam84
11-20-2016, 04:19 PM
I don't think it is a lighting issue, I did a tank swap a few months back and have used all the same equipment. The only real changes I have made aside the increased water volume was a new sand bed, since moving over the livestock the nitrate has become undetectable. Not sure if the sand bed is playing a role in this.

Ryanerickson
11-20-2016, 05:27 PM
I've been using flourish nitrogen to bring my nitrate up a bit I'm using 2ml a day it keeps the nitrates at about .2 in 90-100 gallons. i did a lot of reading first as its made for freshwater but I found info on a flourish forum from a scientist at seaChem saying it's reef safe.

adam84
11-20-2016, 05:34 PM
Thanks Ryan, how long have you been dosing for and have you noticed any improvement in color?

Ryanerickson
11-20-2016, 05:44 PM
I dosed for 2 weeks colors improved phosphate went down to the point I took gfo offline. But I also noticed algae starting to grow a bit so I backed off for a week after a week algae stopped growing completely and sps has paled out a bit again also nitrate back to 0. Im started again today I will try 1ml a day for now. Trying to find the perfect balance. Also phosphate went up to .07ish when I stopped dosing while dosing nitrate phosphates dropped to .02-.03.

adam84
11-20-2016, 05:54 PM
Judging by seachems analysis the available nitrogen is at 0.007 and phosphate is 0.01 does this not mean that flourish would add more phosphate than nitrate?

Ryanerickson
11-20-2016, 06:54 PM
I'm no scientist lol phosphates only went down when I used it but great question sure looks like it does.

adam84
11-20-2016, 07:05 PM
Did some online reading and decided to order some calcium nitrate, should be here in a few days. From what I have read the ammonia in it should not ammount to detectable levels

Myka
11-20-2016, 07:34 PM
Thankyou I checked into them and they only ground ship and it cost 103 bucks to get it here, seems a little steep for an 8 dollar product. But it is considered a hazardous material I suppose
They charged me $20 shipping. All in including exchange it was $38.

jordanc_17
11-22-2016, 03:57 AM
I also use Seachem Flourish. But I use Flourish Nitrogen since it appeared similar but with more nitrogen. I am really liking the effects, been dosing it for 6 months or so.

Ryanerickson
11-22-2016, 04:08 AM
I'm using this
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/ryan_erickson/Mobile%20Uploads/20161121_210443_zpsnsyctvoy.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/ryan_erickson/Mobile%20Uploads/20161121_210501_zps4yjp80zb.jpg

Myka
11-22-2016, 01:23 PM
Judging by seachems analysis the available nitrogen is at 0.007 and phosphate is 0.01 does this not mean that flourish would add more phosphate than nitrate?

That is SeaChem Flourish which is a trace/micro element supplement. There are a bunch of "Flourish" additives. Anyone who is using the Flourish products for nitrate addition is using Flourish Nitrogen, and those using it for phosphate addition are using Flourish Phosphorus. There are lots of people using these two products, they seem to be safe for reef use.

warriorcookie
11-22-2016, 08:54 PM
Never realized this, but seachem has a handy dandy calculator on their site to know how much to dose.

Neat!

http://www.seachem.com/flourish-nitrogen.php