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Roskoreef
11-27-2015, 09:46 PM
as title says, i suspect i may have some red bugs and i want to treat my tank just in case as a recent alk swing has a few of my acros stning, i want to rule out red bugs but my vet wont give me any cause shes a **** and doesnt beleive that people use these meds for reefs.

In calgary will pay for shipping....

e46er
11-28-2015, 02:49 PM
a vet will probably sell them to you if you explain what they are for. maybe print off some info off the net showing them your intended use and your not just out of your mind.

Howie
11-28-2015, 03:29 PM
Dewinton pet hospital is suppose to be really good and they deal with alot of exotic pets. Maybe they would help you out. Goodluck

Coasting
11-28-2015, 03:47 PM
If it didn't cost a fortune in the first place and I didn't actually use it for my dog I would sell you my sentinel ;)
They don't make interceptor anymore.
Perhaps Heartguard? I'm not sure what the active drug is that you're looking for to kill the bugs. Does the added med in sentinel for fleas affect the reef In a negative way since everyone used to use interceptor and that doesn't have the flea portion in it....

The problem is legally vets cant dispense it with out seeing the animal. As they should technically be doing a heartworm test on the dog before prescribing the med. As giving an animal who has heartworms, a heartworm type med like revolution or sentinel will kill the dog.
So the ones who aren't selling it to you aren't being turds, they just don't want to risk their license.
However if you do phone around im sure one vet is bound to sell you something. Even post an ad on craigslist saying you're looking for a single tablet.
I used to always see people selling tubes of revolution on CL, im sure somebody would be bound to part with a single sentinel.

GoFish
11-28-2015, 04:11 PM
Interceptor (milbemycin oxime) is either back on the market or coming back soon... http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=35393
I could get you some Sentinel and send it to you if you can't source it there

Myka
11-28-2015, 04:56 PM
as title says, i suspect i may have some red bugs and i want to treat my tank just in case as a recent alk swing has a few of my acros stning, i want to rule out red bugs

IME, red bugs don't cause STN. I wouldn't treat a tank for red bugs without confirmation of an infestation. The medication will kill off all your pods and any crabs you have. It's not something I would do prophylactically. Get someone to check your tank for you that has seen them before. Once you've seen them before, it's much easier to spot them.

kien
11-28-2015, 05:33 PM
You don't have to suspect that you have red bugs, you can easily find out. I know you have a decent DSLR, you can use that to take some macros of your colonies. Zooming in will reveal the red bugs. Sometimes you can even see them without zooming in ! Tiny red specs on your colonies. Yes, I speak from experience. :neutral:

And in my past experience, NO vet would ever give me interceptor. I tried LOTS. Even exotic pet vets in Calgary. They all turned me away. If I recall correctly you need(ed) a prescription (for your dog) for interceptor, so for you to walk in and ask for it for your fish tank is probably not kosher with that. I don't blame them, they are doctors after all.

I ended up obtaining interceptor from a friend who owned a dog. That's probably your best bet if they still sell interceptor. There are supposedly natural possibilities like pipefish.

When I had red bugs I had it for a long time and as Mindy said, it never caused STN in my colonies. It took me a long long time to find interceptor so just lived with it for a while and it was fine, I think. Just in case, I recommend setting up a prayer reactor.

ClubReef
11-28-2015, 05:40 PM
Just get yourself some Milbemax Large Cat at this singapore website...they will deliver to Calgary:

https://www.ourpetworld.net/milbemax-cat-2-8kg-two-tablet-pack

16mg of Milbemycin Oxime (active ingredient that kills red bugs)
40mg of praziquantel

Coasting
11-28-2015, 07:41 PM
Interceptor (milbemycin oxime) is either back on the market or coming back soon... http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=35393
I could get you some Sentinel and send it to you if you can't source it there
Thats great for americans but Virbac aquired sentinel and sentinel spectrum not the same company that bought out that portion of novartis. So americans might get interceptor but Canada is SOL.
Interceptor will not be coming back within any forseeable future....

Roskoreef
11-28-2015, 09:53 PM
You don't have to suspect that you have red bugs, you can easily find out. I know you have a decent DSLR, you can use that to take some macros of your colonies. Zooming in will reveal the red bugs. Sometimes you can even see them without zooming in ! Tiny red specs on your colonies. Yes, I speak from experience. :neutral:

And in my past experience, NO vet would ever give me interceptor. I tried LOTS. Even exotic pet vets in Calgary. They all turned me away. If I recall correctly you need(ed) a prescription (for your dog) for interceptor, so for you to walk in and ask for it for your fish tank is probably not kosher with that. I don't blame them, they are doctors after all.

I ended up obtaining interceptor from a friend who owned a dog. That's probably your best bet if they still sell interceptor. There are supposedly natural possibilities like pipefish.

When I had red bugs I had it for a long time and as Mindy said, it never caused STN in my colonies. It took me a long long time to find interceptor so just lived with it for a while and it was fine, I think. Just in case, I recommend setting up a prayer reactor.

Well that was actually sort of fun, now all i want is a full frame camera and a better macro lens....dammit.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_0106_zpsajqksryl.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_0106_zpsajqksryl.jpg.html)
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_0111_zpstlkb9w7r.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_0111_zpstlkb9w7r.jpg.html)
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_01091_zpsewijj2ye.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_01091_zpsewijj2ye.jpg.html)
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_0107_zpsyvxdilsf.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_0107_zpsyvxdilsf.jpg.html)

Got some ok shots of these pests, also some other creatures aswell! they seem to be the stn clean up crew so far...these purple little bugs are nesting at the bases of frags and colonies but none on healthy corals.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_0103_zpsda4maqb2.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_0103_zpsda4maqb2.jpg.html)

they could also be demons from hell...hopefully i can get some form of milbemycin oxime soon, greatful for these forums, have a few leads..setting up a prayer reactor tonight, did my research and i am certain the technology is solid. oooh look eggs!

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah74/rosko21/DSC_0104_zpszoehegct.jpg (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/rosko21/media/DSC_0104_zpszoehegct.jpg.html)

Roskoreef
11-28-2015, 09:56 PM
stn seems to be a separate issue. Only some are affected and some are recovering, but most that have started have met their doom, with the exeption of some frags that have survived so far.

GoFish
11-28-2015, 11:27 PM
That explains it eh?! What if you brought a piece of your living/dying coral into a vet? Wouldn't they have a little leeway in the law to treat it with some documentation brought in? You could give it a name... Here's my little pet Acro named "Strawberry Shortcake" can you prescribe it some meds??
It's a living pet in theory. It may get you some sentinel before it could be shipped by anyone that's offered to help from afar...
The purple things look like flatworms, maybe a dose of flatworm exit and sentinel, one two punch

Good luck

Sweet pics BTW

Roskoreef
11-28-2015, 11:52 PM
That explains it eh?! What if you brought a piece of your living/dying coral into a vet? Wouldn't they have a little leeway in the law to treat it with some documentation brought in? You could give it a name... Here's my little pet Acro named "Strawberry Shortcake" can you prescribe it some meds??
It's a living pet in theory. It may get you some sentinel before it could be shipped by anyone that's offered to help from afar...
The purple things look like flatworms, maybe a dose of flatworm exit and sentinel, one two punch

Good luck

Sweet pics BTW

after some persuasion that is exactly what the avion and exotic vet in calgary said, if i brought in a frag even... BUT it would be the same as any other consult at a vet, 95$ plus the sentinel, prob 60$, im hoping to just pay someone 25-30$ per large pill and maybe like 18$ for overnight post.

Ryanerickson
11-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Bottom pic looks like a flatworm of some type aefw are usually on skin hope it's not them for your sake

Aquattro
11-29-2015, 01:42 AM
Bottom pic looks like a flatworm of some type aefw are usually on skin hope it's not them for your sake

AEFW eggs are in clusters, and a bit different in color. Those flat worms are not AE ones (the bluish ones).

Roskoreef
12-02-2015, 01:57 AM
ok did a dose of flatworm exit today and no flatworms that i could see at all.. added the extra 50% and nothing.. those little purple bugs are munchin away at certain acros..i have no clue what they are... still on the hunt for sentinel

madkeenreefer
12-02-2015, 03:57 PM
Thoes bite markes sure do look like typical AEFW to me. :cry:

Coasting
12-27-2015, 06:29 PM
You'll be happy to know that the company who acquired sentinel in Canada is now trying to bring back Interceptor as well. So not just the americans will get it now. Sometime in 2016 Mid to late year potentially. But for now, either go to the states or find some sentinel.