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Easto
07-24-2015, 01:30 PM
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o720/keaston82/tank_zpsxqmv958w.jpg

I have unleashed my windows paint skills on this one!

I have a 48" tank
Lighting is 2 Kessil LED

I am going to drill a Bean Animal Overflow.

My overflow box is 4" (deep) x 10" (high) x 12" (long)

The 12" side has slots in it for water flow. The 4" pieces on the side are solid acrylic - no water passes through the sides.

These are the three setups I am contemplating.

1. Overflow in the corner with 1 return line at the far end.

2. Overflow in the middle with 1 return at the end

3. Overflow in the middle with 1 return on the left side and 1 return on the right side.

From my understand all of these should be fine as long as circulation WITHIN the tank is good.

I planned to go with option 1, but if there is a good reason to do something different I'm all ears.

reefmandan
07-24-2015, 02:32 PM
I like option three the best. More returns is better for flow ... especially along the back wall (depending on how exactly you arrange the return flow). I also like three for the placement of the box. The whole idea behind the weir box is to maximize surface skimming, and by positioning the box in the middle, you give more access to surface waters across the whole area of your tank to be skimmed over the weir.

The Guy
07-24-2015, 02:58 PM
I like option three the best. More returns is better for flow ... especially along the back wall (depending on how exactly you arrange the return flow). I also like three for the placement of the box. The whole idea behind the weir box is to maximize surface skimming, and by positioning the box in the middle, you give more access to surface waters across the whole area of your tank to be skimmed over the weir.

Agree #3 is the best option, this is basically what I have in my RSM250 works very well with some directional nozzles on the returns. you may want to add some powerheads to help with lower tank and reef circulation.

Easto
07-24-2015, 03:22 PM
For power heads I have an MP40

I'll probably add 1 or 2 Korillas once it's up and running and I see where I need the extra flow.

Aquattro
07-24-2015, 03:37 PM
My return simply returns water from the sump. I only have (maybe) 400gph, so regardless of how many lines I use, it's not adding to flow in any amount worth worrying about. The only time I used dual returns was on a 150g running a MAG 18, and even then the flow was minimal.
IMO, use the return pipe how it best fits and address flow using pumps designed for that.

e46er
07-24-2015, 04:02 PM
A centered overflow I feel would be SLIGHTLY more beneficial for surface skimming but that said an end overflow would be much less intrusive and allow for easier flow in the tank and less potential dead spots sooooooo at the end of the day I'd say they cancel out. Personally I'd go option one but this is just my thoughts.

Easto
07-24-2015, 04:35 PM
Yah, I was leaning towards option 1 as well. I guess it's like they say - more than 1 way to skin a cat.

Aquattro
07-24-2015, 04:42 PM
I would do option 2, just to avoid looking into the side of the overflow. Also has greater appeal for resale, I think. I almost did a corner overflow, but choose center. Shortly after the build, i decided on a different location for the tank and would have ended up with my viewing side having the overflow. Glad I went with center :)

albert_dao
07-24-2015, 05:12 PM
Multiple returns is a waste of time. The return flow from your sump will be negligible compared to the output from a few appropriately sized powerheads -- especially once it's been divided in half and run through additional elbow fittings. It would be like blowing through a straw to try to change the direction of air from a 14" fan.

I'd just go with a center overflow and have the return come through the overflow :)

Aquattro
07-24-2015, 05:16 PM
I'd just go with a center overflow and have the return come through the overflow :)

That's what I have, but I only run a single durso. Any concerns with a fourth hole in that location?

albert_dao
07-24-2015, 05:35 PM
Umm... Well, I'm of the opinion that a Beanimal overflow is like putting a piece of duct tape over top of a screw to hold two pieces of wood together tighter. So there's that.

But no, I'd have no concerns regarding structural integrity if the holes are properly spaced out and the glass is of the appropriate thickness.

Myka
07-24-2015, 06:16 PM
I have similar views of the bean animal as Albert does. I'd use the center hole for the return. I prefer side overflows to center overflows, but as Brad suggested, sometimes your plans change and the side overflow would become viewable.

Snappy
07-24-2015, 07:04 PM
I would go with it centered and make it external if possible.

maron6977
07-25-2015, 03:13 AM
I have a 4' 120g . Dual overflows , not in corner & I hate it !
My choice would be corner overflow , run the overflow at 45 degree angle .
Just my $.02

byee
07-26-2015, 09:41 PM
Option 3 is the best.

Easto
07-27-2015, 01:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies!

spit.fire
07-27-2015, 04:11 AM
That's what I have, but I only run a single durso. Any concerns with a fourth hole in that location?

run a herbie, only 3 holes needed including the return, easier to plumb and just as fail safe / quiet