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Piscez
03-22-2015, 03:18 PM
Hello all, well its good to be back after a 5 year absence. Won't bore you all with details but basically I previously had a 120 Gal : http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62786 back in 2009, all done with Anthony's help but due to family issues I had to shut it down in May of 2010, the plan was to move it to my new home, but after losing all my fish at a fish sitters place, it kind of killed my spirit so I sold the complete tank to a fellow Canreefer. Back to present day... I have a co worker who also used to be in the saltwater game and we got chatting and we both decided to get nano's. So out I went and got a 24gal, I had been poking around the forum looking and Anthony noticed asking if I was coming back. When I told him I was getting a nano he humorously knew that wasn't going to cut it and asked what I would really like! I told him since it would be going in my dining room in place of the buffet I really wanted a large viewing pane so a 220gal 72"x30"x24" with emphasis on the 30" height and ideally on a stand that would be 40" high as I have 10 foot ceilings and would like to do a wainscot paneling all the way around the dining room with drop out panels covering the stand to give to a clean finished look. Well Anthony doesn't mess around, the same day I picked up my Nano he calls me to tell me he has a friend selling the exact setup, so I purchased this:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/tank%202_zpsvudzf5pf.jpg

Even the stand was a close to perfect 39.5"!!!

So what a great start, I had a one other requirement if I was going to make this happen and this system fit the bill. I wanted a large sump as I wanted to section off a 50 gallon portion to use as my water change and ATO reservoir. Low and behold this system had a 125 gallon sump. Other supplied equipment was a 6 Ft T5 lighting with built in timer and moonlights, Euroreef RC-250 skimmer, Titanium 1000watt heater , tunze powerhead, Vortech MP40 wavemaker, plumbing etc, all the live rock and sand.

I had a custom home builder friend come over to see about the weight issue being this was going on the 2nd floor of my 3 level home. The wall behind the tank is a 3 level load baring one as well as the outside wall to the right of the tank and even better it is all over the garage with steel girders running underneath... perfect!

The next plan was to get my plumber pal over to run me a water line and a drain system, I decided buckets and barrels were not going to be part of my water change regime :idea: I've got say this was mean't to be everything just fell into place even the drain setup ran perfectly a turn of a ball valve to stop the flow into the sump and another to direct it into the drain from the dining room into the garage out the garage though the ceiling into the gutter down pipe!.... sweet. To add the 50 gal new water I just turn off one return pump turn the ball valve, open another ball valve which is connected to a 3rd return pump sitting in my reservoir and the job is done :biggrin:
The reservoir then once again becomes my ATO. I know there is a bit of a debate about using tap and Prime VS R/O water, but I just went with the easier route and trusted the advice I was given from a couple of seasoned reefers they have been using tap and Prime for over 4 years ( since the pre Olympics GVRD water treatment upgrade) with no issues so I'm good with that.

I will post up pics of my tap and drain system very soon stay tuned, thanks!

Piscez
03-22-2015, 03:40 PM
On the move, sure pays to have friends and family, especially those with a truck!!!!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Leaving%20Harvys%20_zpsevryvgws.jpeg


Prep for position:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/prep_zpssbnzurjw.jpeg


Setting up:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Setting%20up_zps6y2u5xdq.jpg

Getting ready for placement:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Getting%20ready%20for%20placement_zpsklk8q5y7.jpg

Tank in place:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Tank%20in%20place_zpsv0kzpnie.jpg


Sump baffle build:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/sump%20baffle%20build_zpszuwmwlto.jpg

FishyFishy!
03-22-2015, 04:09 PM
Looks like a great re-start! I'll be tagging along for the ride.

hondas3000
03-22-2015, 04:20 PM
yeah I ran into Anthony too and he helps me out a lot, and he close to my house :). They said salt water tank is easy to upkeep once its running but I find that its not, beside the water change, salt have to get mix and dosing and testing for coral. Your sump is nice, it do multi things and save space as well.

Myka
03-23-2015, 03:30 PM
Looks like a great start! You might learn to dislike the 30" depth though once you realize you have to use tongs to do anything. :D I'm looking forward to seeing the finished renovations though. It looks like a nice tank - Aqueon/AGA mega flow? I like the trim on it. Although I imagine you're going to cover up all the trim with your renovation...?

Fwiw, your tank is 72 x 24 x 30" (not the other way around). Length x width x height.

Piscez
03-23-2015, 04:56 PM
Looks like a great re-start! I'll be tagging along for the ride.

It is thank you I'm lovin it

yeah I ran into Anthony too and he helps me out a lot, and he close to my house :). They said salt water tank is easy to upkeep once its running but I find that its not, beside the water change, salt have to get mix and dosing and testing for coral. Your sump is nice, it do multi things and save space as well.

The sump with built in mixing station/ATO, with plumbed line and turn key drain were essential for me, which IMO make things EASY'r :biggrin:

Looks like a great start! You might learn to dislike the 30" depth though once you realize you have to use tongs to do anything. :D I'm looking forward to seeing the finished renovations though. It looks like a nice tank - Aqueon/AGA mega flow? I like the trim on it. Although I imagine you're going to cover up all the trim with your renovation...?

Fwiw, your tank is 72 x 24 x 30" (not the other way around). Length x width x height.

thanks Myka for the correction, my bad, but actually I love the 30" depth for the rock scaping etc I wanted specifically this depth for the overall view when on the the stand its close to 6 ft tall to give you that TA DAH factor which I wanted in the dining room. Fortunately I'm 6"2" with arms like an ape so on my 3 step stool I can reach the sand bed which is pretty deep! :lol:

rishu_pepper
03-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Saw this tank yesterday, looking awesome, Andrew! Take a pic of the majestic when he comes out :wink:

Piscez
03-23-2015, 09:07 PM
Here's the water line and drain in the garage:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Drain%20garage_zps1e7xy5h5.jpg

and the drain coming out of the garage into the downspout outside, nice and clean :biggrin::

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Outside%20drain_zpsmuyjmpcc.jpg

Once the panel is back up the PVC is barely seen, as you can see there is about 1/4" showing in the downspout, with a bit more wrangling I'm sure I could hide that too.

Piscez
03-23-2015, 09:12 PM
Water line and drain ( just to the right of the ATO), plumbing connected:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Tap%20and%20drain_zps9n1aqwph.jpg

Piscez
03-24-2015, 03:28 AM
Finally some up and running tank shots:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/tank%20shot_zpsrulxlbil.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/reef%20shot_zpshlrv7mnf.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/fish_zpsjpgfljze.jpeg


My two favourite fish! both equal beauties sorry for the blurry shots taken with my android:

Majestic Angel

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Majestic%20Angel_zpsonpxkkig.jpeg

Purple Tang

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/purple%20tang_zpsq4xtcgte.jpg

More great fish to come, I'll post some daylight full room shots soon, next is to work on the wainscoting and quartz counter top to finish it off.

Myka
03-24-2015, 04:00 PM
Looks good! Great idea putting the drain into the down spout. That goes out to the storm drain, right? I hope it's not going onto your lawn (the saltwater will kill it). You will get really ugly salt stains on your driveway too if it's running on the driveway.

Piscez
03-24-2015, 05:32 PM
Looks good! Great idea putting the drain into the down spout. That goes out to the storm drain, right? I hope it's not going onto your lawn (the saltwater will kill it). You will get really ugly salt stains on your driveway too if it's running on the driveway.

thanks no no worries, it's going down into the storm drain:whoo:

Wretch
03-25-2015, 10:48 PM
I see you are selling more rock after another change in rock work, did you pick up that copperband butterfly or powder blue tang at OC?

Piscez
03-26-2015, 01:47 AM
I see you are selling more rock after another change in rock work, did you pick up that copperband butterfly or powder blue tang at OC?


Yep got approx 100lbs now available. The copperbands weren't eating at this stage so I left those alone for now, but did take his Juv Emperor and the powder Blue he'd them since Feb 26th, great fish super healthy funny my purple tang flashed the powder blue maybe 5 times, but the PB didn't seem fazed and now they cruise together, no issues between my Majestic and Emperor of course, how's the coral beauty?

Wretch
03-26-2015, 06:00 AM
Yep got approx 100lbs now available. The copperbands weren't eating at this stage so I left those alone for now, but did take his Juv Emperor and the powder Blue he'd them since Feb 26th, great fish super healthy funny my purple tang flashed the powder blue maybe 5 times, but the PB didn't seem fazed and now they cruise together, no issues between my Majestic and Emperor of course, how's the coral beauty?

Coral Beauty and Melanurus Wrasse(not sure thats what it actually is) both fit in great. Trying to get my Kole tang and Coral Beauty to eat New Era Mini Marine Grazers now. So far they seem to much prefer eating off the rocks. What can you do.

Piscez
03-28-2015, 12:30 AM
Well here's the latest tank shot since removing a lot live rock to create more flow and swim room, next is to reduce the sand bed depth as advised by Paul from Oceanic Corals. Also increased my livestock which now consist of Purple Tang, Powder Blue, Majestic and Emperor Angel, Coral beauty, pair of Clowns, baby Hippo Tang, Orange spot sand sifter, clown goby and just added today flame hawkfish!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/latest%20tank%20shot_zps65yi9ahu.jpg


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/latest%20tank%20shot2_zpsrh9oe1l5.jpg

Starting to drag my behind a little on wainscoting finish....

gobytron
04-25-2015, 01:00 AM
you had me at drain spout.

Awesome build.

monocus
04-25-2015, 09:56 AM
you might want to insulate around your drain from the house.it doesn't get that cold here very often but it can and freeze up your pipe and possibly crack it .better safe than sorry,

Piscez
05-26-2015, 08:18 AM
Well it's been a while since I've updated, had to deal with a family matter and my time is going to be limited for quite a while, but I have managed to get the wainscoting going and just yesterday converted to LED lighting, the pics aren't best as I took them with the dimmers turned up way too high. All in all I'm really happy with the LED's, we'll see how they perform in the long run. I've still to continue the wainscoting around the dining room, finish the counter top and fascia. Sadly my Majestic passed away.... very timid, but I did pick up a gorgeous Melanurus wrasse and a bonded pair of long nose hawk fish, they love to hangout together which is really cool seeing them side by side. My RBTA's have split again so I now have 5. Here's a couple of pics:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/LED%20daytime_zpsssrac8nf.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/LED%20daytime2_zps7xnambjl.jpeg

Animal-Chin
05-26-2015, 05:10 PM
Very nice!

rishu_pepper
05-26-2015, 05:19 PM
Looking good, Andrew! The new aquascape is nice, lots of swimming room for them.

Sorry to hear about the majestic, I've had my share of fish deaths lately and it hurts every time.

Piscez
05-28-2015, 06:47 AM
Cheers thanks Brian here's a couple more pics:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/tank%20May_zpshlcpexak.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Fish%20May1_zpstzbvthol.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Fish%20May3_zps8gkwajsw.jpeg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Fish%20May5_zpssrqoq1uo.jpeg

Piscez
06-08-2015, 12:41 AM
Here's a few tank shots in stages from right to left:

My RBTA split twice, can just see my little saddleback hosting, purple tang in the way, trying to grow GSP on my return, frogspawn upper right:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6rbta_zpssyz5cvnn.jpeg

Toadstool, bubble coral, my huge green hairy mushroom, couple my fish hamming it up:


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6toad_zpsu8ubpflw.jpeg


Multi head torch, Aussie Duncan, White anemone, favia etc:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6fs_zpsl2qjjyab.jpeg

Montecap, another torch, two RBTA's hiding under mont and one GBTA, couple of mushroom and a metallic GSP on return:


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6monte_zpsj1nrct0x.jpeg


Kenya tree, another white anemone, a rescue coral far left background, once was a blue sponge hoping it will be again:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6kenya_zpsdawcowxj.jpeg

Piscez
06-08-2015, 12:48 AM
I have approx 20 fish, i know heavy bio-load, but I love them all, but my two favourites are the ones with the most character, love watching this guy with his curiosity and antics, gorgeous colours Niger Trigger:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6triiger_zpsc1ybwcaq.jpeg



My second favourite is this copperband he is sweetest guy, I can even stroke him with my finger and he doesn't flinch, only had him a few days from "Morph" got five fish from him and a few corals.


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6copper_zpshqbetjxb.jpeg


Finally one more random fish shot:


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Jun6fish_zpsmtpfrdfk.jpeg

rishu_pepper
06-08-2015, 05:34 AM
Good looking fish! Glad to see the purple is doing well too :biggrin:

Piscez
06-09-2015, 07:10 AM
Good looking fish! Glad to see the purple is doing well too :biggrin:

Thanks Brian, yep he's still the boss of the tank aka Tony Soprano, every new fish goes though his "worthyness" test lol. The only new fish he didn't have any issues with was the Niger trigger.

Piscez
09-24-2015, 06:44 AM
6 months later:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/bluelight%20Sept15_zpsagkafh4a.jpg

Myka
09-24-2015, 05:17 PM
Looking good! Man you have a ton of rock in there! :D

Piscez
09-24-2015, 05:57 PM
Looking good! Man you have a ton of rock in there! :D

LOL thanks, actually that's half as much as it originally came with! I'll post a couple of recent day shots later, there's a lot of tunnels etc it's not just a piled up wall, and almost every rock has some corals so don't really want to remove any more:razz:

Piscez
09-25-2015, 03:59 AM
Here my latest day pics, dealing with a little bit of a cyano issue but anyway.

Left side:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Left%20Sept15_zpsp6heeix5.jpg


Center:


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/center%20Sept15_zpsiaidscq7.jpg


Right side:


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Right%20Sept15_zpsrsipmtvf.jpg

AquaAddict
09-25-2015, 04:07 AM
Hi,

Beautiful fish! I didn't understand where you bought them. It didn't sound like J&L or King Ed.

AquaAddict

Piscez
09-25-2015, 01:38 PM
Thanks, I bought them all over really some from tank shut downs of other reefers, yes J&L as well as King Ed's, others from former Oceanic corals

Piscez
10-03-2015, 08:06 AM
A couple of evening shots, finally got around to installing the Granite on the sides and the front facial will take a day pic:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/bluelight%20Oct15_zpsnyao1ryf.jpg


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Clown%20blue_zpsmtphh1jf.jpg

rishu_pepper
10-03-2015, 09:51 AM
How are the majestic and emperor doing?

Looks very classy now!

Piscez
10-03-2015, 05:50 PM
Thanks Brian, Majestic doing well unfortunately the Emperor didn't make it not sure why as he was a tiny tiny baby but was eating and no stress from other fish... Need to get a decent day shot of the finished thing, looks pretty nice IMO

rishu_pepper
10-04-2015, 03:33 AM
Thanks Brian, Majestic doing well unfortunately the Emperor didn't make it not sure why as he was a tiny tiny baby but was eating and no stress from other fish... Need to get a decent day shot of the finished thing, looks pretty nice IMO

That sucks to hear about the emperor. :( Will you be trying another one?

gregzz4
10-04-2015, 03:43 AM
Tanks looking awesome Andrew :biggrin:

Piscez
10-04-2015, 04:23 AM
That sucks to hear about the emperor. :( Will you be trying another one?

Oh yes it's my daughters favourite fish!

Piscez
10-04-2015, 04:24 AM
Tanks looking awesome Andrew :biggrin:

Thanks Gregg, Candy canes are still around not growing very dat though, I think I need to get my doser set up, but really could use so help figuring out the quantities etc

Myka
10-04-2015, 04:29 AM
What I can see of stand looks great - would love to se a full photo! The tank contents are looking real good too. Sorry about the Emperor.

SeaHorse_Fanatic
10-04-2015, 05:06 AM
Wow, the tank is looking great. Also sorry to hear about the Emperor. Baby fish are always a crap shoot when it comes to survival.

Piscez
10-07-2015, 02:26 AM
Wow, the tank is looking great. Also sorry to hear about the Emperor. Baby fish are always a crap shoot when it comes to survival.

Thanks Anthony, yep my hippo tang did great from a baby....

Piscez
10-07-2015, 02:29 AM
Finally got around to completing the finishing touches, white granite tops and white fascia all matches the wainscoting nicely I think!

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/finished_zpscsjfsvuj.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/fisnihed2_zpsstb4ntd9.jpg

Piscez
10-07-2015, 02:51 AM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/finished5_zpsh5fyrmow.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/finished4_zpsjeylfcni.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/finished6_zps6pvhgdzg.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/finished3_zpsj2zydjhr.jpg

Piscez
10-07-2015, 03:48 PM
As a family we spend more time eating in the dinning room now just to watch and chat about the tank. :biggrin:

Animal-Chin
10-07-2015, 11:32 PM
That looks FANTASTIC! Invite me for dinner!!!


Just don't serve fish, that would make me feel weird with them watching...

Piscez
10-08-2015, 07:47 AM
That looks FANTASTIC! Invite me for dinner!!!


Just don't serve fish, that would make me feel weird with them watching...

Thanks your corals are amazing! Looks like we are using the same lights!! Funny the pics make my dining room look small but with the add a leaf in the table we can seat 10 no problem

Piscez
08-02-2016, 08:12 PM
15 months later just did dome more rock scaping yesterday hence a couple of white ones lol, lots of changes with fish corals etc, always a battle between keeping lots of fish and corals balanced but happy with it now:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Aug20162_zpsvxzl7hsz.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Aug2016_zpsctiyqvlx.jpg

Piscez
08-02-2016, 10:39 PM
Day shots:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Aug20164_zpsmhkxftym.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Aug20163_zpshzhka49n.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/20Works4me/Aug20165_zps29j8dtuv.jpg

SeaHorse_Fanatic
08-03-2016, 07:57 AM
Tank is really filling up and the corals & fish look happy and healthy! Good job!