PDA

View Full Version : Decided to drill my tank


Easto
12-14-2014, 09:59 PM
I have a 75 Gal and I was going to set up a sump-less system.

After some thought I have decided that I should just use a sump, however my tank isn't drilled.

Which size hole saw should I use?

Which size bulkhead should I buy?

I am not sure what the most common/best sizes are.

I was thinking of doing very basic plumbing using braided nylon. I can always hard plumb things later when I upgrade to a bigger system

WarDog
12-15-2014, 05:30 AM
I would recommend using the Herbie overflow method. When set properly it is silent and safe. Others may recommend a Bean Animal drain, this will require one more hole than a Herbie.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344892&highlight=herbie+overflow

http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-reef-tank-plumbing-method-basics/

For a 75 gal system I would go with a 1" main drain, a 3/4" or 1" emergency and at least one 3/4" return. You could also do two 1/2" returns, or even one 1" return. However I think the 1" return would be too big.

A 1/2" bulkhead requires a 1 1/4" hole

A 3/4" bulkhead requires a 1 1/2" hole

A 1" bulkhead requires a 1 3/4" hole

You will have to identify whether the side or bottom you wish to drill is tempered or not. Tempered glass cannot be drilled.

Hope this helps.

Easto
12-15-2014, 11:49 AM
None of my panels are tempered, which is nice !

CM125
12-15-2014, 02:12 PM
highly recommend Herbie, make sure you research before drilling though!

target
12-15-2014, 02:15 PM
On my 90g I did a bean animal overflow in my tank, using 1" bulkheads into 1.5" pvc pipe. As said, you need a 1-3/4" hole saw for a 1" bulkhead. My returns are also drilled for 1" return line and bulkhead into 3/4" locline.

Easto
12-15-2014, 02:19 PM
I've been looking into it.

I would be drilling the back of the tank.

I am just not too sure why the siphon drain in a lot of the pictures I have seen have a 90 degree fitting pointing down.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FOEDVBiwxT0/maxresdefault.jpg


http://usacceleratorcorp.com/frank/Reef/Reefs01.jpg


I don't understand why that is needed and how do you purge all the air at the start to begin the siphon.

target
12-15-2014, 02:29 PM
With the 90 pointed down you get a full flow syphon as the pipe will begin to draw water once the level in the overflow raises high enough. The water falling pulls the air with it, and purges the air that way. A small air bubble will be left at the top of the piping but most of the air will be purged.

Doug
12-15-2014, 03:15 PM
Many of the online stores sell packages, matching the bulkheads to the hole saw.

CM125
12-15-2014, 03:33 PM
its pointed down to get the siphon lower in the chamber, its not needed, but helps a bit with the restart.

Easto
12-15-2014, 04:29 PM
Would something like that second picture be fine?

I was looking at a 6 ¼”W x 4”D x 5”T Overflow box.

How much space should I have between the bottom of the box and the opening of the siphon intake?

CM125
12-15-2014, 04:50 PM
Should generally aim for about 6" between the siphon tube and the overflow, less will work but can be harder to tune and will take longer to recover on restart (this is why people use turned down elbows, to get the siphon tube lower). The second picture would work, but if you can get more height I would go for it

CM125
12-15-2014, 04:51 PM
http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-reef-tank-plumbing-method-basics/

Easto
12-15-2014, 06:03 PM
I was thinking about drilling near the Middle of the overflow Box height. Then putting the siphon tube with the elbow facing down. I haven't measured but I'd think that would give 1.5" - 2" between the siphon and the bottom of the box, which sounds like it's fine.

The second one I'd drill at the same height but turn the elbow up facing.

CM125
12-15-2014, 11:39 PM
I would try to get more space then that, even if you add some pipe on the top or bottom, it will fluctuate a lot in the beginning and its nice to have that extra. since you have the option I would definitely do it.