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Aquattro
09-27-2002, 04:14 AM
I think I saw this here before, but I can't find it.
What does everyone get for a pH reading with freshly mixed salt water?
Kinda like a poll without the cool little java script buttons ;)

stephane
09-27-2002, 04:18 AM
8-8.1 smile.gif

Aquattro
09-27-2002, 04:21 AM
Stephane, which salt are you using? I use I/O and my pH is 7.9 (after heavy aeration)

stephane
09-27-2002, 04:36 AM
Same salt as you :confused: I have a water change jug ready but my pinpoint baterie is low bat. I have put the baterie for recharge and I will tell you the reading tomorow with a new bateri and calibrate the pinpoint,

Aquattro
09-27-2002, 04:46 AM
thanks

sumpfinfishe
09-27-2002, 12:03 PM
I read 7.9 with my pinpoint using I/O as well. smile.gif

Aquattro
09-27-2002, 02:41 PM
According to an article by Craig Bingman, it "should" mix to 8.35 :confused:

Aquattro
09-27-2002, 11:37 PM
There has to be more people here that use salt water and measure their pH!! Anybody???

EmilyB
09-28-2002, 12:19 AM
8.0 Kent salt. This was in my log book, probably the only time I ever tested it immediately after mix, (7.7) and then after aeration (powerful pump) at 15 min, and again at 24 hours (8.0).

pocilipora
09-28-2002, 12:43 AM
Whats the salinity of your makeup water?

stephane
09-28-2002, 01:11 AM
Ok I just clean the probe who was looking like a piece of live rock calibrate (even after +3month the 4 years old probe is right on target)it and the value is 8.09 at 1.025 salinity

The difference in each is the make up water you take, I utilize ro/di water with a value of 0 tds
so this water is very easy to change PH. One drop of vinegar in the bucket will make 25 gallon of water acid and a pinch of backing soda will turned back hight PH

IMO That way I probably get the real value IO suppose to be :D

Aquattro
09-28-2002, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by pocilipora:
Whats the salinity of your makeup water?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's 1.026. The RO/DI water is about 3 ppm TDS.

EmilyB
09-28-2002, 02:34 AM
3ppm TDS from the DI Brad ? I was having problems at 2ppm TDS and found out I should change it at 1ppm. I tested the membrane, which was okay at 98%, so I changed out the DI.

Does that stuff affect the pH as well ?

StirCrazy
09-28-2002, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by Reef_Raf:
[QUOTE]It's 1.026. The RO/DI water is about 3 ppm TDS.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hmm I get 0 ppm TDS out of my DI Brad, if I skip the DI and go strait from the RO it is only 1ppm.

Steve

billc
09-28-2002, 05:06 AM
Only use RO and IO my make up water runs at 1.023 and ph at 8.1..

Troy F
09-28-2002, 07:54 AM
I've only measured newly made up water a few times and I always got measurements in the low 8s. I was going to say, maybe it has to do with water in the Northwest but Iowa and Calgary sort of throws that for a loop.

stephane
09-28-2002, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Troy F:
I was going to say, maybe it has to do with water in the Northwest but Iowa and Calgary sort of throws that for a loop.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have not very big knowlege to backup this Troy
but if the TDS of water is 0 ppm we should have all the same PH at the end with any kind of Tap water

but if we dont have 0 probably then the mineral still in the water could play with tath PH in my therory :D

[ 28 September 2002, 07:46: Message edited by: stephane ]

Aquattro
09-28-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by StirCrazy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Reef_Raf:
[QUOTE]It's 1.026. The RO/DI water is about 3 ppm TDS.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hmm I get 0 ppm TDS out of my DI Brad, if I skip the DI and go strait from the RO it is only 1ppm.

Steve</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, I just checked a new sample and it's 0ppm. I originally checked the water in the tank I mix it in and I guess the dried residue from the last batch of water affected the reading.

stephane
09-28-2002, 12:09 PM
Very strange brad :confused:

Wich kind of PH test have you take?
if it is a PH meter did you have calibrate it?
maybe there someting more than only the TDS who
play with the PH

Aquattro
09-28-2002, 12:15 PM
Stephane, I use a meter that is calibrated and tested on a known standard. I wish I just got bad readings, but unfortunately they're accurate. I'm told that the amount of CO2 in the air at the time the salt is added can affect pH.

pocilipora
09-28-2002, 01:20 PM
If you have a few people over you will notice a drop in PH just by people breathing the same air as your tank or makeup water is exposed to. Try opening a window to get some fresh air in the room your doing your tests in. Just a thought.

Troy F
09-28-2002, 01:59 PM
I have not very big knowlege to backup this Troy but if the TDS of water is 0 ppm we should have all the same PH at the end with any kind of Tap water<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's completely true Stephane, I overlooked that :confused: . I think the variable lies in the 0ppm of the purified water and the test results.

stephane
09-28-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by pocilipora:
If you have a few people over you will notice a drop in PH just by people breathing the same air as your tank or makeup water is exposed to. Try opening a window to get some fresh air in the room your doing your tests in. Just a thought.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have heard of this before but was not aware that it could made that difference on the PH very interesting I should do some more testing with the open window

Aquattro
09-29-2002, 04:39 AM
Yes, people in the same room can affect pH by up to 0.3 points. I have done all my testing though with all windows and doors open.