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donkey77
06-27-2014, 10:58 PM
Picked up a used doser with red sea a b c foundation powder, my par are
Ca 525-550
KH/alk 8.3 dkh
Mg 1550ppm
all done with salifert i know a little high, i will take readings for the next 4 days to see what my tank uses, its 100g system, i run carbon
Do i premix the powder into containers. How do i figure out how much iam setting the doser too

kien
06-28-2014, 05:18 AM
dosing is a bit of trial and error. As you already indicated though, you kinda have to determine (or guess) what your depletion rate is. Then once you figure that out you program your doser to replenish that. Your doser should have a dosing rate mentioned somewhere in the manual.

kien
06-28-2014, 05:20 AM
Also, those high values, are you getting those values before you've even started dosing or have you been dosing for a while now? Those are quite high values! You must be using some expensive high content salt or you are already dosing some of those elements ?

donkey77
06-28-2014, 11:47 AM
using instant ocean reef salt have not been dosing anything, did do a water change the day before

donkey77
06-28-2014, 11:48 AM
will do another test when i get home from work at 5

donkey77
06-28-2014, 11:52 AM
so do i just add this to some ro water in a jug, how much water iam i suppose to mix with the poweder, iam not a numbers guy

xenon
06-28-2014, 11:59 AM
so do i just add this to some ro water in a jug, how much water iam i suppose to mix with the poweder, iam not a numbers guy

Here is a link to the manual for the ResSea Reef Foundation 1KG salts.

Page 9 is the info you are looking for.

http://www.redseafish.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/23092-Manual-Foundation-GB-DE-FR-Supplements-2013a.pdf

donkey77
06-28-2014, 11:52 PM
new readings today
ca 550
KH/alk 8.3
Mg 1550
why are my par going up when i havent dose anthing yet, my alk is going higher should it be the other way around as in getting lower, i did change about 8gallons of fresh salt water 3 days ago, hmmm strange, will conti to test for the next 7-8 days, see where iam at

donkey77
06-28-2014, 11:59 PM
Here is a link to the manual for the ResSea Reef Foundation 1KG salts.

Page 9 is the info you are looking for.

http://www.redseafish.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/23092-Manual-Foundation-GB-DE-FR-Supplements-2013a.pdf

i still dont understand that can you check over my numbers
ok for the reef foundation A i need 9.2oz of powder, mix in with 3.8 pints of ro water, iam i reading that right
Foundation B 1.7oz of powder mix in with 21pints of ro water

denny_C
06-29-2014, 12:11 AM
new readings today
ca 550
KH/alk 8.3
Mg 1550
why are my par going up when i havent dose anthing yet, my alk is going higher should it be the other way around as in getting lower, i did change about 8gallons of fresh salt water 3 days ago, hmmm strange, will conti to test for the next 7-8 days, see where iam at

more than likely a limitation to what the test can read , they arnt all that accurate in a pinpoint sense;)

if your trying to calculate your consumption dont do water changes while you are doing this.

donkey77
06-29-2014, 12:15 AM
ok
i guess that makes sense on the test part
Now for the the stock solution mix, did i do that part right

donkey77
06-29-2014, 12:18 AM
i still dont understand that can you check over my numbers
ok for the reef foundation A i need 9.2oz of powder, mix in with 3.8 pints of ro water, iam i reading that right
Foundation B 1.7oz of powder mix in with 21pints of ro water
this is in my instructions that came with the red sea pro foundation

donkey77
06-29-2014, 12:23 AM
Making stock solutions from Reef Foundation A, B & C
To produce stock solutions, dissolve the powder in RO water as follows:
reef A iam going to use 550 grams in 1.8 liters of ro water i cant be reading this right can someone explain it to me like iam 9 years old

xenon
06-29-2014, 12:28 AM
i still dont understand that can you check over my numbers
ok for the reef foundation A i need 9.2oz of powder, mix in with 3.8 pints of ro water, iam i reading that right
Foundation B 1.7oz of powder mix in with 21pints of ro water


Reef Foundation A (Calcium)
Disolve 1kg of powder into 1.8L of RO/DI water.

Reef Foundation B (Alkalinity)
Disolve 1kg of powder into 10L of RO/DI water.

Reef Foundation C (Magneium)
Disolve 1kg of powder into 1.7L of RO/DI water.

The amount of cal/alk/mag that your corals are consuming is the big question mark.

If you have lots of corals, you can test every 24hrs without making any changes to see how much they consume. If you only have a few corals, you will need to wait longer to see any effect of consumption.

Do not dose calcium or magnesium until your corals have consumed them. Once your levels are good, then you can begin dosing to maintain those levels.

If you are using a salt mix that is high in cal/mag, you probably won't need to dose cal/mag until you have more corals.

donkey77
06-29-2014, 12:36 AM
thank you so much

donkey77
06-29-2014, 12:42 AM
once i make up my batches
do i just put it into a bottle and then to my dosing unit,

reefwars
06-29-2014, 12:50 AM
Yes then spread out the amounts it doses over a photo period , I don't use that product but typically part a and part b of most dosing is done with a bit of time in between of them not both at the same time . I would imagine its the same

CaL 1030
Al k 1100
Cal 1130
Alk 1200

To give you an idea

xenon
06-29-2014, 01:37 AM
once i make up my batches
do i just put it into a bottle and then to my dosing unit,

Yes.

You will then need to "vent" the tubes by sucking up liquid from the container to the end of the tubes.

I personally like to break-up my dosages into 24 parts daily (once per hour).

donkey77
06-29-2014, 11:55 AM
so the one thats has 10l of ro water can i put the rest in a container for later use, because my bottles are only 1 l pop bottles

xenon
06-29-2014, 02:09 PM
so the one thats has 10l of ro water can i put the rest in a container for later use, because my bottles are only 1 l pop bottles

Absolutely.

donkey77
06-30-2014, 12:26 AM
ok people now were getting somewhere
check the water chemistry again today with no changes, strange
i should start to see my levels go down soon i hope my

xenon
06-30-2014, 12:52 AM
ok people now were getting somewhere
check the water chemistry again today with no changes, strange
i should start to see my levels go down soon i hope my

Again, unless you have lots of corals, their consumption may be too little to test for.

You may not even need a dosing pump setup yet. Water changes might even be enough to keep up with consumption.