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gregzz4
10-24-2013, 08:22 PM
I'm looking at buying the 4-1/2" Mastercraft Wet Tile Saw (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/3/StationaryTools/TableSaws/PRD~0556829P/Mastercraft+Wet+Tile+Saw.jsp?locale=en) as it's on sale again starting tomorrow

I normally base tool quality on what I'll use the tool for
Since I'll hardly use this thing, and am not looking for precision, I'm not buying an expensive one

Before I buy it I'm looking for some input from anyone who's used it on corals and LR
Or maybe someone could suggest something else ?

Thanks for any help

duncangweller
10-24-2013, 08:26 PM
Is this just with cutting corals in mind?

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lastlight
10-24-2013, 08:39 PM
something like this is probably better for your needs and cheaper too if the canadian tire saw is $160.

http://reefbuilders.com/2013/04/15/inland-dfs100-reefkeeper-edition-ready-action/

edit: nevermind this saw is MORE money. I'll leave the link anyways...

eli@fijireefrock.com
10-24-2013, 08:41 PM
I don't sugest using it for coral unless you are making straight cuts only and look at the blade thickness as it will eat away from your coral.
As using it for live rock keeping in mind you will not get deep in the rock as its a small blade...there are other saws you will get better results for rock and for corals...

duncangweller
10-24-2013, 08:43 PM
I have read about two options, the aforementioned Inland DFS-100 and the Gryphon Aquasaw. I believe the gryphon is designed for a pretty serious operation.

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Magickiwi
10-24-2013, 08:45 PM
something like this is probably better for your needs and cheaper too if the canadian tire saw is $160.

http://reefbuilders.com/2013/04/15/inland-dfs100-reefkeeper-edition-ready-action/

edit: nevermind this saw is MORE money. I'll leave the link anyways...

I was going to say: If it's Inland you won't get much for $160... I have a similar model from them for lapidary work and it cost LOTS more.

You guys might consider what's called a "trim saw" from a lapidary store. Like a tile saw with a much sharper and smaller blade so there's less waste. It would be a lot cheaper than an Inland band saw.

spit.fire
10-24-2013, 08:47 PM
I have read about two options, the aforementioned Inland DFS-100 and the Gryphon Aquasaw. I believe the gryphon is designed for a pretty serious operation.

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I haven't used the gryphon before but I've used inland saws quite a bit and have always been happy with them

Just keep a few spare blades if you buy one

I use it to cut everything from liverock to corals to frozen foods and glass

eli@fijireefrock.com
10-24-2013, 09:12 PM
I have an inland saw for lapidary work but with few modifications i use it with no issues on colonies for fragging...l could use a higher speed one but what I got is more than fine for fraging roughly getting near 700 crags per blade...

Magickiwi
10-24-2013, 09:20 PM
I have an inland saw for lapidary work but with few modifications i use it with no issues on colonies for fragging...l could use a higher speed one but what I got is more than fine for fraging roughly getting near 700 crags per blade...

If you cut some small pieces of red brick it can restore the cutting power. Assuming you're using a sintered blade that is.

Din Gior
10-24-2013, 09:35 PM
I'm using dremel (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/2/CordedPowerTools/RotaryToolKits/PRD~0544789P/Dremel+Rotary+Tool+Kit%2C+7-pc.jsp?locale=en) + diamond blade for corals, but probably it will not work for live rocks.

gregzz4
10-24-2013, 09:39 PM
Is this just with cutting corals in mind?
LR too

something like this is probably better for your needs and cheaper too if the canadian tire saw is $160....
The 4-1/2 saw is $45 tomorrow, and the 7" is $100 today
I'm not impressed with the cutting depth of either
1" and 1-3/8"

there are other saws you will get better results for rock and for corals...
Such as ?

I've been wondering if I'd be better off with a wet bandsaw
I saw Anthony use a Delta one once and I'm sure it was wet ...

gregzz4
10-24-2013, 09:39 PM
I'm using dremel (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/2/CordedPowerTools/RotaryToolKits/PRD~0544789P/Dremel+Rotary+Tool+Kit%2C+7-pc.jsp?locale=en) + diamond blade for corals, but probably it will not work for live rocks.
I have one and diamond blades, but ya it's not going to penetrate deep enough

jostafew
10-24-2013, 10:12 PM
If you're still thinking the wet-tile saw option, you shouldn't have to spend more than $80 or so. Have a look here: http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/7-In-Tile-Saws/7-in-Bench-Mount-Diamond-Saw/8000365.p I bought mine from Rona a couple years back on sale, but same price.

Cal_stir
10-24-2013, 10:26 PM
I've used my 7" cheap tile saw on corals, works OK and if its not deep enough it breaks easy, the coral that is, blade will rust really bad if you don't clean and dry it after.

sirruckus
10-24-2013, 10:39 PM
water jet table :wink:

gregzz4
10-24-2013, 10:53 PM
I normally base tool quality on what I'll use the tool for
Since I'll hardly use this thing, and am not looking for precision, I'm not buying an expensive one

water jet table :wink:
I don't think so

gregzz4
10-24-2013, 10:58 PM
If you're still thinking the wet-tile saw option, you shouldn't have to spend more than $80 or so
Ya, that's about the same as the 7" one from Canuck Tire
I just don't like the metal table top
And twice the price for only another 3/8" cutting depth

I've used my 7" cheap tile saw on corals
Table top style ?

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a bandsaw
But it has to be wet

Magickiwi
10-24-2013, 11:02 PM
The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a bandsaw
But it has to be wet

Then get your wallet out because that don't come cheap.

eli@fijireefrock.com
10-24-2013, 11:20 PM
To be honest i have looked for couple months before I decided to go for a bandsaw with a diamond blade. The only downfall I have IS that my saw only gives me 3.5 or 4" of cutting thickness.
For rocks cutting I used a shop wet saw in the past 18" blade but its too $$ and commercially. ..
for cutting rocks in half there are many tools that could be used it all depends on what level of cutting you really want. .
Diamond blade grinder I always have on hand for rocks and I seen people using one on coeals (not at all my recomendation) but for couple cuts on the back side of the coral its fine.

Cal_stir
10-24-2013, 11:22 PM
Ya, that's about the same as the 7" one from Canuck Tire
I just don't like the metal table top
And twice the price for only another 3/8" cutting depth


Table top style ?

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a bandsaw
But it has to be wet

Yes, table top

mark
10-25-2013, 12:24 AM
if looking for limited use and cheap, check out Princess Auto (http://www.princessauto.com/pal/product.jsp?prdId=8237489) 7" and 3 extra blades

lastlight
10-25-2013, 02:01 AM
Diamond blade grinder I always have on hand for rocks and I seen people using one on coeals (not at all my recomendation) but for couple cuts on the back side of the coral its fine.

denny is pretty damn good at it tho. crazy mofo.

gregzz4
10-25-2013, 02:23 AM
Then get your wallet out because that don't come cheap.
You're right there
I've now got my eye on one that Tang Daddy has Inland DB-100 (http://www.inlandcraft.com/singleproduct.asp?position=1&department_id=29&keyword=&category=&partnum=91040)

hillegom
10-25-2013, 04:01 AM
The DB 100 is not made for saltwater environment.
Use this one

http://www.inlandhobby.com/ReefKeeper_Fragging_Saw_p/91060.htm

monocus
10-25-2013, 04:11 AM
you can always come up and use my saw Greg.that way you can put the money into your tank.i also heard the griffins weren't that great-a t3 is better

gregzz4
10-25-2013, 04:57 AM
you can always come up and use my saw
Thanks Bill :smile: I may take you up on that offer
What do you have ?

Chris (Tang Daddy) also offered the use of his wet bandsaw, but he's too far away for my liking of coral transfers

I'd rather own one and have the use of it when I please, without having to bag stuff up and transfer it

But, as I said, I may call you as I need to frag a Torch :wink:

gregzz4
10-25-2013, 06:09 AM
The DB 100 is not made for saltwater environment.
Use this one

http://www.inlandhobby.com/ReefKeeper_Fragging_Saw_p/91060.htm
Thanks for the input Dietmar
This is the kind of info I need

I've sent a mail to the company looking for local suppliers ...

monocus
10-25-2013, 07:53 AM
rok 10" wet with slide on a stand

Seriak
10-28-2013, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the input Dietmar
This is the kind of info I need

I've sent a mail to the company looking for local suppliers ...

I did the same thing for the DFS100. The DB 100 is sold by a Canadian company but I don't believe Inland has any Canadian Dealers for their DFS 100 Reefkeeper model.

typezero
10-28-2013, 05:01 PM
MadJellyCorals got the coral cutting version of the c40 gryphon. Love that the motor is in too and theres a water basin to keep the blade cool.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/29/4e4a7yge.jpg

Seriak
10-28-2013, 05:19 PM
Yeah but do you sell it?

typezero
10-28-2013, 05:48 PM
Nope, just offering another option to the lineup. Cant get them in canada :( we got it shipped from the states.

gregzz4
10-30-2013, 12:41 AM
Inland tells me they don't have any Canadian vendors
Also, they are currently 2-3 weeks away from shipping the Reefkeeper model as they are short on some parts
I'll update this thread if I find out anything more about a bandsaw

Cal_stir
10-30-2013, 01:00 AM
I saw an Inland bandsaw on the shelf at Sealife Central in London On @ a month ago, here is their email if you would like to contact them about it.

sealifecentral@rogers.com

Seriak
10-30-2013, 02:03 AM
Inland tells me they don't have any Canadian vendors
Also, they are currently 2-3 weeks away from shipping the Reefkeeper model as they are short on some parts
I'll update this thread if I find out anything more about a bandsaw

Really? They told me to contact Reef Wholesale.