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Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:04 AM
In the process of making a deal on a Red Sea Max 250 for my son's bedroom when I thought "holy cow, how heavy are these things?". This tank will be in my son's room on the second floor of our house (above our garage). It will be on an outside wall but it is not a load bearing wall. I am guessing the tank will be almost 900 pounds. Do you all have your tanks on concrete floors?

Sorry if this is a dumb question but my husband really doesn't want this tank, especially if he comes home and it's fallen into our garage!!!

brotherd
10-01-2013, 02:12 AM
How old is your home?

Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:20 AM
My house was built in 2004.

brotherd
10-01-2013, 02:25 AM
Your fine. Don't place the tank on carpet and get it absolutely level.

Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:27 AM
His entire room is carpeted. but not thick pile. I'll make sure it's perfectly level. I was just going to level the stand but now don't know what to do...maybe I seem really dumb with these comments???

brotherd
10-01-2013, 02:38 AM
Not dumb at all. The closer the tank is to the wall the more it will lean forward on carpet. If you can cut the carpet out to the dimensions of the stand and place it directly on the wood floor, well that would be ideal. Big tanks sitting on carpet don't get along unfortunately.

Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:41 AM
This is all very complicated...Maybe I will get my son to stick with the Biocube 29 we have in the basement to start...haven't even used that one. Seems like less to worry about. My husband didn't even want this tank, let alone to start cutting out carpet, etc.

RDNanoGuy
10-01-2013, 02:46 AM
Get a piece of 3/4 ply cut to be a few inches larger than the base of the stand and put it between the stand and the carpet. It will spread the load out over a larger area and prevent the tank from leaning. You can paint it the stands color to make it more attractive.

Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:48 AM
OK. thanks. Maybe I will call my architect who designed the house, just to be sure. Or maybe it'll be easier to get my son to move into the basement :) thanks again!

RDNanoGuy
10-01-2013, 02:50 AM
Residential building floor are required to support 200 lbs per square foot in Canada.

toxic111
10-01-2013, 03:23 AM
Residential building floor are required to support 200 lbs per square foot in Canada.

Ummm.. no they are not, Commercial floors don't even meet that standard.

Residential floors are 40psf live (anything you put on the floor), and 15-20 dead (weight of the floor itself). Though in most cases a newer home with exceed that standard, depending on the type of joists that are used.

That said, you should be fine, but like others said, need to keep it off carpet, using 3/4" plywood will spread the load over the carpet.

Oh I design buildings for a living, so I have a pretty good idea what I am talking about.

Coasting
10-01-2013, 03:24 AM
Get a piece of 3/4 ply cut to be a few inches larger than the base of the stand and put it between the stand and the carpet. It will spread the load out over a larger area and prevent the tank from leaning. You can paint it the stands color to make it more attractive.

This.
Don't cut your carpet out :neutral:
Just ensure the tank is level. I know some people will fill the tank with a few inches of water and then play with it to make sure its level, since waters flat... You can kinda measure the water line from all sides and corners until you're happy with it.
I have a piece of plywood under my stand as well.

Our house is ... 45+ years old, my tanks on the 2nd floor, against a load wall, about 80-90 gallons total system, no issues here.

RDNanoGuy
10-01-2013, 03:44 AM
Ummm.. no they are not, Commercial floors don't even meet that standard.

Residential floors are 40psf live (anything you put on the floor), and 15-20 dead (weight of the floor itself). Though in most cases a newer home with exceed that standard, depending on the type of joists that are used.

That said, you should be fine, but like others said, need to keep it off carpet, using 3/4" plywood will spread the load over the carpet.

Oh I design buildings for a living, so I have a pretty good idea what I am talking about.

Interesting. I was told that by the builder that built my house. Just goes to show you I guess. Now I'm wondering about my 2500+ tank on the main floor of my house. Good thing I have it on an outside wail where the joists sit on the sill plate.

toxic111
10-01-2013, 03:59 AM
Interesting. I was told that by the builder that built my house. Just goes to show you I guess. Now I'm wondering about my 2500+ tank on the main floor of my house. Good thing I have it on an outside wail where the joists sit on the sill plate.

Shows that builders don't even know.

Depending on the footprint of your tank you are probably ok., like I said, most floors evened the standard. To give an example, the typical 'I' joist is 11 7/8" deep & can span around 18' feet at 19.2" spacing. Most homes are under that spacing or span. Also strapping or drywall will increase the load they can carry, same with the type of sheathing used. Many variables go into the load caring capacity.

Madreefer
10-01-2013, 04:41 AM
Well not to hijack.
My house is 8yrs old and I plan on putting a 225G with 1 1/2" steel stand on my main floor. Sump is in basement. The spot is kind of like a bay window, like where a kitchen hutch would go. I have a 144G there right now. Will I be ok? It is a weight bearing wall. Filled should be about 2300lbs

Scuba Diver Gal
10-01-2013, 02:14 PM
I am talking about getting him a Red Sea Max 65g. Footprint approx 38" wide by 18" deep.

Coasting
10-01-2013, 02:49 PM
I am talking about getting him a Red Sea Max 65g. Footprint approx 38" wide by 18" deep.

Just get a piece of plywood to fit under it. Put it in place. Add a bit of water so you can level it out perfectly. You can always let it sit for a few days like that incase the carpet fibers settle or something... who knows... Then start it up. You will be fine with that size of tank in your house. People have much much larger in similar situations.