smelly stuff

[sea gnome]

As you have probably read, my tank has crashed. It also developed a leak at the same time. Of course, to fix the leak I needed to drain the tank, take out the rock and vety carefully balance the tank on the stand. The leak seems to be fixed, leaky connection now replaced by yet more quick disconnect fixtures and a new bulkhead. My corals, fish, and rock are in tuppperware tubs all over, salinity and temperature maintained at tank conditions for two days now. I can start putting everything in the tank tomorrow and adding water back in.

Question is, the water in the bucket STINKS and while the crabs and snail are alive some of the rock has orange speckles on it. (Wasn't there before) Should I add it to the tank as 'culture" I was thinking of scurbbing the rock before adding it again. I only have about 45g in the buckets and I need about 60g more. the sand bed is still moist and I am hopeful that it will recover.

[Skimmerking]

well i dont see a big problem there Quinn did you move the DSB around?

I dont know what the orange specks are i couldnt tell you on that one. check the parameter to see if the water is ok .if so i wouldnt worry about it.

mike

[sea gnome]

I didn't disturb the dsb, and the water (pH and NO3 ) are normal. Rachel

[muck]

well i dont see a big problem there Quinn

i thought the same thing at first...

then i took a better look at the name above the avatar.

:biggrin:

[sea gnome]

Why would you think my name is Quinn? I'm not offended just curious.

Well the saga continues, my smelly water was black with a thick scum layer on top today and smelled really bad. I chose to scrub the rock and throw the water out. The rock is now back in the tank and the sand bed is turning black!! I have powerheads and a heater in place, I am trying to mix up the water to add enough to the tank so I can start the protien skimmer taht is in the sump going but it will probably be two more days. The sand bed appears to be alive as I now have hundreds of red worms crawling out of the sand and up the glass. WTH are they? Good/bad? they are long and skinny and about 1" long. I am soooo fustrated with the tank, if I hadn't done it in memory of my Dad I would probably be giving it up, but I know it can be beautiful again, I am tired of being a so so fish mummy.

[muck]

Rachel,

Take a look at Quinn's(teevee) Avatar.
At a quick glance the are pretty similar... :mrgreen:

[Beverly]

Well the saga continues, my smelly water was black with a thick scum layer on top today and smelled really bad. I chose to scrub the rock and throw the water out.

Rachel,

I've been trying to figure out a couple of things....

- your tank crashed, though I don't know what kind of crash it was. Can you explain what you mean by "crash"?
- then your tank sprang a leak, so you removed everything but the sandbed to repair the leak. How much water did you have covering the sandbed? Did you have a powerhead or some way to move water over the sandbed?
- the rock was placed in buckets for a few days, right? Did you have water movement in the buckets during that time? If not, there would be some die-off of stuff on the rock, hence the scum on the surface and bad smell.

The rock is now back in the tank and the sand bed is turning black!!

If you had little water covering the sandbed and the sandbed did not have any water movement, it may have crashed, meaning you're going to have an ammonia spike and the sandbed will be turning black is my best assessment.

What I would do is -- when you have several hours at one time to work on the tank, is remove the rock and place it in buckets of tankwater. Leave about 3" of water in the tank covering the sandbed. Then mix the sandbed really, really well. It'll stink like crazy, but it will bring detritus into the water column and will off-gas the anaerobic gases built up in the lower layers of the sandbed.

Once you have really dirty, stinky water, push the sand toward one end of the tank so there is a gully at the other end. Siphon out the dirty water from the gully until you can't siphon any more out. Level out the sand, add water and rock. Once the rock, sand and water are back in the tank, get your powerhead and heater up and running.

For at least a week afterward, monitor and record ammonia and nitrite to see if your tank is re-cycling. If so, do not add livestock until both toxins are at 0 ppm.

Livestock should be kept in a container with a powerhead, heater and light (if there are corals) and some rock to help process waste products. It would be okay not to feed fish for a few days to keep waste to a minimum so there are no ammonia spikes in there.

The sand bed appears to be alive as I now have hundreds of red worms crawling out of the sand and up the glass. WTH are they? Good/bad? they are long and skinny and about 1" long.

These worms are good, so keep them. They are probably trying to escape your crashed sandbed. See above for dealing with the sandbed. I'm pretty sure the worms will survive the process I've outlined.

I am soooo fustrated with the tank, if I hadn't done it in memory of my Dad I would probably be giving it up, but I know it can be beautiful again, I am tired of being a so so fish mummy.

Yes, I think your tank can be great again. Take this time to clean up the tank while it is still in pieces, which will help you restart the tank on better footing.

The most important thing about pulling a tank apart is to keep everything aerated and heated if the tank is apart for longer than a few hours.

I hope my comments are of help to you.

[Quinn]

:lol: Thanks for the concern guys, but my tank couldn't crash if it wanted to, nothing in it to crash.

I agree, the avatars are confusingly similar.

Rachel, what are you using for circulation in the buckets? If the water doesn't circulate I think it might become stagnant.

[sea gnome]

How do you mean they are the similar avtars? mine is obvoiusly an x-ray of an unexploded hand grenade imbedded in someone's frontal lobe and teevees is an MRI of a head! :biggrin:

You are right about the sitting water going stagnant, I only have 5 powerhead and 7 places I needed them and only 3 thermoters to go between them. I am in the process of trying your suggestins Beverly in between working this week, there is not a big rush anymore as every coral is now dead and three of my remaining fish were dead when I came home half an hour ago. 1 sailfin and 2 chromis, the lawn mower bleeny does not look good and will be going down the toilet soon i suspect. :cry: I then I will have no fish.

This has not been a good week. rachel

[sea gnome]

I have no fish :cry:

[Quinn]

Not sure where Cobble Hill is but you might have looked for someone to babysit your fish. You need to buy more devices to increase circulation if you don't have enough.

Our avatars are relatively similar compared to most others on this board, they both depict a sagittal view of a head in black and white.

[christyf5]

Oh jeez, Rachel I feel terrible :sad: I'm so sorry I couldn't be of help. If its any consolation your corals probably wouldn't have done any better in my tank as I'm going through round 3 with the dinos and am losing stuff as well :cry:

Christy

BTW, Quinn, she did look for people to babysit both her corals and fish. I was supposed to take the corals but got called out of town. Difficult to babysit a large fish though. If I hadn't already had a tang and lawnmower I would have done it.

[EmilyB]

Pity. :sad:

Any chance this is an island water thing after all the problems over there?

[sea gnome]

I know the the water or salt is the problem, I was buying ro water and had ground water specialist from the island over to our place 18 months ago to put in a ro unit. She had the water from the well tested and told us she would put one in but she thought it was a waste of $$ since the water was "phenomenal" I opted to not go with it, and now i wonder if some contaiment got into it??? I am now setting up for her to put in a ro unit under the sink. I am devastated by the loses. Christy, do you want to try my tuxedo urchin on your algea, he was still alive this morning? I can run it up tommorow?

[christyf5]

Christy, do you want to try my tuxedo urchin on your algea, he was still alive this morning? I can run it up tommorow?
Sure thing, what time?

[sea gnome]

Christy, what's your number. Sorry I have taken so long to get back, It ws very busy in town last pm and i worked 6 hrs OT. Have slept all day. rachel